302 VS 351 Install in a Maverick

Discussion in 'Technical' started by coutangman, Jul 8, 2007.

  1. coutangman

    coutangman Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2007
    Messages:
    1,379
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    112
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    Vehicle:
    '72 Comet GT, '72 Sprint Mustang Sportroof, '73 Mustang conv, '69 Cougar XR7 conv.
    I have been reading a lot here about how difficult a 351 install is in a Maverick. What makes it so much more difficult than a 302 install? Many Mavericks and Comets came with a 302. What is the difference? Is the 351 much wider? I know the intakes are different. I know the 351 is taller. Special motor mounts? Can someone explain the difference, please? Thanks in advance.

    Jim
     
  2. Country Mav

    Country Mav Die-Hard Ford Guy!

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    1,770
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Evans, Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    72 2-door Maverick 308/C-4
    Since the 351 is wider.....spark plug changes can be a hassle.....(as if it ain't a tough job on a 302) :D Also, different headers are necessary ( I think) I have also seen on this board where some intakes are too tall to work in conjunction with the stock hood.....All of this is just what I have heard others run in to....I have no experience with it myself.....I'm sure others will chime in on this and help you out more than I can! Anyway, (y) Good Luck with your decision!! Take care! Preston
     
  3. ratio411

    ratio411 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2002
    Messages:
    6,060
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    138
    Location:
    Pensacola
    Vehicle:
    1972 Sprint and 1975 Maverick
    The install itself is not much harder.
    The 302 and 351c/w all share the same mounting, bellhousing, pulley, etc... charateristics.

    The problems were alluded to in the second post:
    Headers
    and
    Service after the install

    Shaving the towers helps alot, but is not manditory.

    Dave
     
  4. T.L.

    T.L. Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2002
    Messages:
    4,187
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Southern Colorado
    Vehicle:
    '73 Maverick 2-door, V-8
    I'm curious; can you run stock exhaust manifolds in a Maverick with a 351w?...
     
  5. ratio411

    ratio411 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2002
    Messages:
    6,060
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    138
    Location:
    Pensacola
    Vehicle:
    1972 Sprint and 1975 Maverick
    I have seen cars with either 351 and stock manifolds.
    So it is apparently possible, however, I am sure it matters greatly on which model/year car the manifolds came from.
    Also, some mods may be needed.
    We installed a 351c once with 70 Stang manifolds...
    The only way they fit though was to grind all the excess bumps, ribs, and tabs off the entire exterior of the casting.
    There must have been 3lbs of useless metal cast into those manifolds!

    Edit:
    Also matters if you are using an auto/manual and floor/column shift too I'm sure!
    The 70 351c would NOT work with manual tranny at all.
    Pretty sure the column shift auto would be out, or require major linkage mods.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2007
  6. don graham

    don graham MCG State Rep

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2002
    Messages:
    15,800
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    302
    Location:
    arizona city, az.
    Vehicle:
    70 mav, 71 grabber, 73 Comet, 2004 f-250 crew cab diesel, 2001 f-250, 2004 explorer, 2007 Gold Wing trike.
    i ran a 351 w in mine for a while. no shaved towers. really hard to change the plugs without shaving the towers. tubular automotive makes headers. i had a set on mine when i got it but i don't know what the brand is. the motor mounts are the same. i ran an edelbrock performer or torker ll with a holley on it and a stock grabber hood. :)
     
  7. ratio411

    ratio411 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2002
    Messages:
    6,060
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    138
    Location:
    Pensacola
    Vehicle:
    1972 Sprint and 1975 Maverick
    Speaking of hood clearance...
    I have ran 302 intakes with hood clearance issues on a Mav, so it's not just a 351 thing.
    No matter the engine, there will be intakes that need a shorter air cleaner or extra clearance built into the hood.
     
  8. newtoford

    newtoford Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2006
    Messages:
    5,475
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Location:
    New Castle Delaware
    Vehicle:
    '76 Maverick, '76 Comet, 78 Monte Carlo, '85 Cutlass Supreme, '86 Regal Limited, '87 Grand Prix
    i have a friend witha 71 mav with a 351w and headers. it fits with out any mods but like you all have said its tight. he put in a 8 qt pan and had to change out the lower controll arms to gain a little bit more clearance. after he realized the intake and carb sat too high for the stock hood he purchased a f/g cowl hood. his original hood is the one sitting on my car. even with the scoop it didnt work.
     
  9. ratio411

    ratio411 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2002
    Messages:
    6,060
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    138
    Location:
    Pensacola
    Vehicle:
    1972 Sprint and 1975 Maverick
    Why did he have to do that?
    It must have been a kickout pan, correct?
    If so, many 302 kickout pans won't fit a Mav...
    I have used Moroso 10" sumps on 302 and 351 Mavs and they worked fine.
    What intake was that?
     
  10. eddie1975

    eddie1975 Windsor Specialist

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Messages:
    3,226
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Martinsburg, WV
    Vehicle:
    sold
    air gap is to tall for my stock hood
     
  11. newtoford

    newtoford Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2006
    Messages:
    5,475
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Location:
    New Castle Delaware
    Vehicle:
    '76 Maverick, '76 Comet, 78 Monte Carlo, '85 Cutlass Supreme, '86 Regal Limited, '87 Grand Prix
    im sorry i dont have too many details on his set up. the pan was pretty wide between the lower controll arms so he took a grinder to the insides of the arms and shaved them down a little. after they cracked all the way through though he bought a welded tubular set rather than the stamped set and that gave him slightly more clearance. there was never any interfearance on the stock ones, he just wanted the peace of mind of a little extra

    i dont know the intake setup but it is tall. with the high intake and tall open air cleaner it definatly sits a few inches higher than stock.
     

Share This Page