Ok.... with in the next couple weeks im doing the 302 and aod swap at the same time from my I6 200 and c4. for the most part i think i have it all figured out, just a few questions that i want to get others point of view or verifing my info is correct. the 302 has a holley 600 vac secondaries, i have the tv cable correcter for it, where can i get the bracket that goes on the intake or carb that holds the throttle cable and tv cable in place before it attaches to the throttle? i am changing the rear to 3.55, i have a trans cooler, and im having a b&m trans pak with street option put in the aod. would the b&m shift improver kit or b&m trans kit still help any? and has anyone ever tried any of these. how hard is it to install a trans temp guage and is there a trans pressure gauge that could be installed and not just a temporary check? how does the collum shifter connect to the aod? the aod came out of a collum shift truck. im sure im leaving something out and i will post as i think of anything, any tips that will help set the tv cable or that will just make this swap go faster and easier is greatly appreciated thanks
here are the parts i used to hook my AOD to my Holley 600, vac. sec.and e-choke. TV/TC bracket - SRK- 4000 - Throttle Cable-TC1000U TV Cable - KD-2AODHT - (Holley Carb.)TV Cable Corrector - Sum-700202 all from Summit...
would the tv cable that came with the 302/aod still work? did u cut or mod the throttle cable? and will u describe where the tv/tc bracket attaches and how the cables attach to it? the tv/tc bracket is the only part i dont have or on the way. also how did u set the cable? did you use the pres. gauge and etc.?
i knew u would come to the rescue, i started to just pm you cause i knew u knew the answers to my questions, but i wanted to see what others had to say also
you will need an aftermarket TV cable... here is how Shawn did his... this is a stock throttle cable and bracket w/aftermarket TV cable..
The B&M shift kits have had some problems. I would use the TransGo AOD-HP kit or get a kit fron Lentech - they are the king of AODs. The trans-temp can go in the pan and the hardest part will be finding a place for it and sealing it into the pan. If you are using a lokar cable you can get all the brackets from them. (you can probably make them cheaper) How you plumb the pressure gauge depends on which pressure you intend to monitor. If you want to monitor throttle pressure you will need a 100 psi gauge because at WOT the pressure can go over 75 psi. If you put a kit in the AOD it can go higher yet and I would recommend a 150 - 200 psi gauge. If you are going to monitor line pressure you will need a 300 psi gauge. Use metal line from the transmission to the gauge to prevent dumping all your ATF on the ground if it ruptures. To set the throttle pressure you need a 15 psi gauge to set the pressure at idle and a 100 psi gauge to check it at WOT. It needs to be between 3 and 5 psi at warm idle and usually closer to 5. There is no other way to set the throttle pressure valve accurately enough for longevity.
i couldnt find a lokar shift kit, the reason i didnt get the trans-go was because the one they had for the aod was for racing and would not shift into 4th until at full throttle. i found out i have a set of burnt cluches in the aod, so theres an extra $200 to have that fixed. also my cousin and i was gonna swap out my ring and pinion this weekend and now he's saying he doesnt have all the tools to do it, and ive already got the ring and pinion and the install kit. the only place i have found that can do it is gonna charge $300. how hard is it to swap the r&p, and are there special tools u must have to do it? paul i saw where you are considering rebuilding the aod's for people, just for the record if i had an extra couple thousond layin around id buy one from you but im way over my budget now. next thing i know the motor will be shot. ha thanks guys
ok... it looks like its gonna be awhile before i can have the 3.55 ring and pinion put in cause the cheapest i can find is $300. how will the 2.79 rear work with the aod? is it gonna be too high? also my cousin has a good c4 that he'll sell me for 200 cause he wants to go t5 in his car. its gonna cost me 200 to replace a band and set of clutches in the aod and then another $100 for the shift kit. whats my best bet with the 2.79 rear? i need yalls opinions on that as quick as possible so i can tell the trans shop what to do and let my cousin know. also another question, what all parts are needed to put in a t5? where can i get them and how hard is it? thanks everyone
Well, I hesitate to say anything but, with your rear gears the C4 is going to be your better transmission. The AOD would put your final drive ratio at less than 2:1. You would have problems with heat build up and shuttle shifts in and out of OD which would wear out the band and intermediate clutches. These are already not the strongest parts on all but the latest AODs.
Paul is correct...you will need a least a 3:55 gear for an...AOD... ...Frank... ( did I just agree with Paul?)
Agreed. I have a 3:1 rear end and an AOD, its too high except for highway. My best mileage is at 70mph. 65 and I have to push the gas to keep a steady speed pulling hills. at 70mph, I'm just under 2000rpms, never move my foot, 24mpg. I gotta get my old car going again. I don't get 24mpg in my wife's 2000 Explorer or my 88 Ranger.
Wow, Frank and I are on the same page and I see no disagreement.... yet. This is truly a momentous moment. BTW Frank, I am glad you got a good deal on the Lentec AOD. They are good transmissions and you should have no trouble with it for a long time.
