P/S Control valve

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  1. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

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    Looks AWESOME!!! Glad it all came together for you, and more glad that i could help!
     
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    facelessnumber Drew Pittman

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  3. dspr

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    Having it undercoated this weekend as well, everything is finally starting to come together:p

    Just a few minor things I need to tend to;
    Small oil leak from the front of the engine, looks like it's coming from underneath the intake.
    The car runs a little hot, when I stopped it, it would climb as high as 200-210 degrees, so I'll have to mount an electric fan in addition to the original one.

    Other than that there's not much that needs doing :)
     
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    blugene Senior member Supporting Member

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    Awsome!

    One of my favorite cars is alive! :yahoo:
     
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    DSPR, You have a beautiful Comet!
     
  6. dspr

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    Thank you:D

    I found this when I had the car up on a lift today:
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    Rear brake(s)? I'll have to change that one out I guess:p

    I'm going to need an overflow tank, and a couple of electric fans ( 8" or 10"?, haven't been able to measure what will fit yet) to keep it from overheating :)

    I also lost a part of the fan shroud (got tangled into the fan) yesterday, so I guess I'll have to change that as well. The one sitting there looked like it was fiberglass or something like that, is it possible to get one that fits the original fan in aluminum or something like that?:)
    A lot of questions not regarding the P/S, maybe I should just start a project thread or something?:p
     
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  7. Comet155

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    I'll add to the steering woes.
    Original power steering pumped died at the track.
    The Shucks replacement was a lemon. Returned it and got one from Auto Zone. Good quiet unit.

    Problem now is a day after the new pump went in, I'm getting black oil leaking out of the control valve where the ball stud goes into the dust shield.

    It's not power steering fluid, so is it the grease/oil that lubes the ball stud area? It seems obviously pushed out by hydraulic pressure because it only flows/leaks when the motor is running. I don't know squat about these valves.

    Thanks.

    :hmmm:
     
  8. dspr

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    Valve about to say goodbye?:p
     
  9. Bryant

    Bryant forgot more than learned

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    when the motor is on the valve pressurises. the slop in the valve will go away. its probly got a small leak in its seals and the your geting the grime and grit mixed into the power stearing fluid coming out.
     
  10. Comet155

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    OK. Yeah, it's a black looking oily guck. I started to take things apart today and clean oil flowed out of the lines.
    Once I figure out the pitman removal, I should have it out.

    Am wondering if taking the big nut off the steering gear (and freeing the pitman from that end) would at least let me unscrew the valve off the shaft or would the pitman arm prevent a full rotation?

    ETA: What the heck size is the steering box/pitman nut? My biggest socket (1 1/4") wouldn't fit.
     
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    Does any joint carry just this puller? I've been finding only complete kits with this thing in 'em, but can't find it individually.

    I have everything disassembled, but am stuck because I can't get the arm off the valve stud.
    Taking the nut off the steering box end didn't help because that also would require a puller...and with the drop down header bracket there (yes it's welded on) the clearance is "minimal."

    ETA: OK, I ground down the puller to fit, but now it's the headers themselves in the way.
    Might have to go back to trying to pull it off at the ball stud end.
     
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    Moneymaker 1 Green Street Beasts

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    I just got mine off using a small pickle fork, I didn't worry about damaging it because it was FUBAR anyhow, went to advance auto and shelled out $250+ for a NEW one and it will be here on the 15th. BTW for those of you who knew about my problems with the steering on my Grabber, this was part of the problem as the stud was pulling out of the valve and very loose (something the alignment shop should have seen) and every time I hit a bump in the road the car was almost uncontrollable.
    Back years ago this same thing happened BUT it actually fell apart and left me without any steering at all (I was just leaving a red light and crossed a RR track) so a welding rod I had got me back home lol (I wrapped it around it to hold it) Please be sure and check this part on your cars very carefully as it will fail!!
     
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  13. Comet155

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    I ordered the puller (finally located it when I realized it's called a ball joint separator).
    I wanted the puller because the rebuilder will redo the unit. He says the part store units (and even the expensive Flaming River units) aren't the best options. Yeah, maybe he's just protecting his business, but what the heck. I'll give it a shot and see what happens.

    In any event...it's not fun missing most of the summer benched like this.
    :cry:
     
  14. Comet155

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    Puller came in yesterday. Tried it this morning and it worked.

    dspr isn't kidding about the gunshot sound. These things don't pull off they EXPLODE OFF! You crank and crank and nothing happens...then suddenly they just blast off with a bang!

    This type of puller has pros and cons...

    Pros; inexpensive, will fit into tight areas.

    Cons: they go in at an angle and don't line up directly over the ball stud.
    This causes the plunger to dig into and chip some of the ball stud threads.
    Still usable though with a quick die cut to clean it up (not an issue if you're replacing the stud or whole unit).
    I would probably shove in a nylon washer or something next time to protect the stud.
    One of the forks on the bottom seems slightly bent after the pull and has a notch cut into it due to not lining up that well with the pitman arm.

    This tool probably only has 2-3 more uses for this type of job before it bends too far, but it is useful.
     
  15. Moneymaker 1

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    Got my valve in ......just waiting for the rain to stop long enough to put it on now.
     
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