Another Bad *** LS maverick

What doesn't make the new 5.0 special??? lol. I've owned 2 4.6 3v stangs and the new 5.0 4v now. And the two aren't even comparable. Way way way way way better platform for one. I'm running 11.7s with a cold air kit and offroad x on my mustang with 3.73s and mt et streets. They respond well to boost, a lot of poeple making well over 500rwhp on 6lbs of boost. I mean the thing is just a beast.

 

yeah but what i am saying is the 4.6 is way more than head and shoulders above and beyond a push rod 302/5.0 (power and reliabilty) with very little modifications from stock and there aren't any (that I know of) in a Maverick (up and running) yet. But what everyone keeps saying is that by some miracle of technology just because the new 5.0 mod motor that is the same size and requires the same modifications to install but just because it is putting out such high HP. number all of the sudden everyone and their brother is going to do these modifications to install them?

I don't see it happening.

 

The price tag

Hopefully in 5-8 years they'll be in the same price range as the LS motors are, those are affordable now a days even for the poor man like myself!

 

Yeah I can see your point there. The only reason I see people really wanting to throw in the new coyote is because its a " 302 " . Not many people out there doing the 4.6 swap in the fox either and someone has already put a coyote in one.

The cost of it all is outrageous too. Aftermarket parts for the 3 and 4 valves are just plain rediculous. I mean its kind of crazy to think that I can buy and build a maverick for the cost of a supercharger kit for the mustang lol.

If I ever do any kind of swap like that it will be a 03/04 termi drivetrain swap.

 

Actually I think its because of the power, Ford is now building them how they should have back in 1992. If the 4.6 had 350-400 HP(back then) a ton of people would be swapping them in....there's been 5.0L cranks for the mod motors for a long time. I really don't think it's just because of the displacement number.....if it is then that's just plain stupid.

 

Actually i think its the associated costs. When you look at the LS motors they are 10+ years old and they have changed very little in that time frame, so they are becoming readily available, these motors are based off of what GM already new and they put the data into one of the most efficient OHV motors on the market, yes its a good motor with decent power but technology wise its not that advanced.

Now in the same respect the 4.6 has been around a couple years longer but ford had been working on a completely different designed motor which has had plenty of teething problems. So with that there are specific 4.6 motors that people look for primarily the DOHC 4.6l motors and those become very expensive depending on the year (think 2003 cobra). Ford really didnt start to see decent ammounts of horsepower across the whole engine line till the three valve, which as they are starting to show up in junk yards they are becoming more of a populars swap, and the associated costs of the engines are dropping... Sad to say there is not that much of a reason to cut shock towers to stick a 4.6 2V in our cars, there is not enough of a performance increase to justify the cost.

 

Dont think Ford could have built a 92 4.6 with 400 hp and have it be as efficient and well mannered as the new 5.0 Your talking almost 20 YEARS ago. Technology and cost just wasnt available in 92. Engine management systems werent even fast enough in 92. Would have been nice if they built them with more power in 92 but they were at the mercy of technology available. The engine was very advanced from a design stand point though. Look at what GM and Chrysler were running in 92. No comparison. The new 5.0 makes gobs of power yes. Its possible now and still streetable. I say good job on both powerplants but totally different animals.

 

Just figured since we are talking about mod motors now ill add...

I hate the damn things


Fwiw lsx ftw

 

It was in Japan, those Honda motors were getting more than 1 HP per CI 20 years ago, with hundreds of thousand of engines still running to this day talk about reliability!...

They had to over there, since they got taxed on how big the engine was....So instead of just using big engines they did it with technology.

 

I guess you missed my post where I already mentioned that....

 

Unfortunitely its the way of the future, pretty soon GM and Fiat are going to have to come up with something other then displacement to compete with a 5.0 engine that gives 25+ MPG and 400+ horsepower. Technology keeps advancing and those that resist change will get left in the dust.

 

lsx is far better than any ford engine. I am seriously considering doing a cam only 6.0 on the spray for the maverick when I have the money. The early 4.6 stangs were slow as crap. The terminators run good but so does about any engine once a supercharger is strapped on. Why anyone would fool with a mod motor is beyond me, its bigger than a 460 performace parts are rediculous and its smaller in displacent than a 302 but weighs more. lol. LS engines are the best bang for your buck no doubt imo. You can go to ls1tech and find several cam only 6.0's in s-10's running high 6's on motor and low 6's on spray. Heck this car is around 2900lbs with a stock internal 5.3 and is running 6.70's on a 150 shot hopping down the track, imagine if the suspension actually worked