302 acquired. Suggestions wanted.

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  1. Dave B

    Dave B I like Mavericks!

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    Everyone loves tearing into a new engine, you never know whats in there.
     
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    Yes, I can attest to tearing down a running motor then rebuilding/refreshening it to its former glory.......................I now have 5 pages of invoices........................and blew my budget by 2X.
    You never know what is lurking in those dark deep corners under the main caps, valves, springs, cam, lifters, etc., etc.
     
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  3. sportyfamilycar

    sportyfamilycar ElMaverick

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    nice motor (y)

    No doubt, but I tell you, I need to finish up sanding my car in the coming days while I'm off. I ran into 1/2" thick bondo in a section... evidently the last body shop thought it was better to cover rust then cut it out :rant2:
     
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    Thanks.
    Now don't forget taking pictures of the heads, inside of the exhaust manifolds and I would really be interested to see what the main caps look like.
    What about the casting numbers on the block???????????
     
  5. sportyfamilycar

    sportyfamilycar ElMaverick

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    sure thing

    I wrote the block code down first thing to see what its off of, D20E-6016-AB
     
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    classic ccg i like cars older than me

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    so its a 68-78 302? i think i did that right
     
  7. sportyfamilycar

    sportyfamilycar ElMaverick

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    going by some google search I came up with 72' Fairlane/Torino engine
     
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    Nope. It's a 72-up 302 block. What it was originally installed in is anyone's guess. Could have been used in any Ford/Merc car, truck or van that came with a 302 from the factory. The engineering costs were assigned to the midsize car line. What you posted are the engineering numbers, commonly called the "casting numbers"
     
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    Oh ok, Well the man whom gave me the motor pulled it from a Mercury Cougar, was a 68' Cougar I believe, because thats what he thought the engine was.


    Can someone help me find what the factory intake manifold looks like on a 302 of this era. Or a good image of a 302 from a good angle in stock form.

    Also, a dual points distributor is what the engine was sporting. Were these the thing back then? Better than a single point system I presume
     
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    Yes, the casting numbers say that it is a 72 and above block and I doubt it came stock in the 68 Cougar, probably a replacement motor at some time.
    As for the intakes, here are a couple...............finding a HiPro stock Ford intake is going to be hard and expensive, finding a stock 4brl shouldn't be that hard. Tony Branda makes repops of the Cobra intake which had a Ford part number as shown in the photo's.................just depends on what you want.
     
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    Here is your picture of what a 68 Mustang with 302 looks like, but you can't see much because of huge aircleaner.
     
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    thanks olerodder :Handshake

    I've started putting this motor back together after checking it out, I wont take to machine shop for a while though. Just seeing what I have so far.

    I'll try and get some pictures up soon
     
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    That "Cobra" intake you posted, isn't a Hi-Po intake, per se. It's a repop of a stock 289 4 bbl intake with the "Cobra" added to the casting. The 289 Hi-Po motors used the same Lo-Po iron intake the std 4 bbl 289 used. The Genuine "Cobra" intakes are an aluminum high rise dual plane, which was later offered in several forms, including the older Edelbrock F4B, the Ford C9OX, A321 and Weiands older Stealth (although cast in a mirror image as opposed to the others) None of these intakes are hard to find, nor expensive, other than the genuine Cobra intake. You can find any of these any day of the week on ebay. The Ford A321 was until recently offered by Ford Racing in their catalog.
     
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    If you want to know what a stock 289/302 4 bbl intake looks like, just look at the Edelbrock Performer 289. Dual points were useful "back in the day" but any electronic setup will beat the pants off one now, both in performance and reliability.
     
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    The Cobra manifold pictured is not a "RePop", it's an original intake used on the early Shelby Cobra piro to 12/64 and still has the Holman&Moody part number. All of the early Ford HiPo aluminum intakes were made initially by H&M. Later manifolds did not carry the H&M number, just the Ford part number. Also, this manifold was designed and manufactured by H&M in 1961 and used on the Cobra/Sunbeam Tiger/TVR with 221/260/289 motors.
    What is refered to as the "high rise dual plane" Cobra inake only came into being after 12/64, and was used on the original GT350's with a larger carb to gain the over 300hp.............and this manifold was not designed by Ford.
    Just to set the record straight.
     
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