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  1. mojo

    mojo "Everett"- Senior Citizen Supporting Member

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    solder is fully conductive. If you leave a big solder ball it can have very bad results, not the least of which is massively increasing wire eeistance at the joint. which can generate excess heat, or act like a heatsink. a fuseable link should not be a solder join.

    when I get on my computer i'll explain better if I need to. tablet sucks to type on.
     
  3. Dave B

    Dave B I like Mavericks!

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    Oh god, here we go again....if everyone knows so much, why do they need to be on here?
     
  4. mojo

    mojo "Everett"- Senior Citizen Supporting Member

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    1.) Solder is suppose to be fully conductive and if done poorly can have bad results as w/ anykind of connection. Any poor connection increase resistance.
    2.) I agree solder shud not be used on fuseable link; no argument there.
    3.) If one does not have experience w/ wiring, connectors and the like, they shud get help frm someone who does or seek pro help.
    4.) This is pretty much the last comment I have on this subject.
     
  5. 71gold

    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    I didn't know the...lowly butt splice...could generate so much attention...:slap:
     
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    I had to google butt splice if that tells you anything :rofl2:.
    I for one learned something from this thread :bouncy:
     
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    did the results have anything to do with wiring...? :16suspect
     
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    Craig Selvey Indiana State Rep - MCCI

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    Almost as much interest as the lowly phillips screwdriver tech article. :D
     
  9. 71gold

    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    ...:yup:...
     
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    Page 130 of google search had some info on it :cry: the stuff prior ranged left scars on my brain for life :biglaugh:
     
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    Dave would you rather have reasoned discourse with informed people or arguments that amount to monkeys throwing poo?

    Personalky I didn't feel like I was arguing with mojo. I was just wanting to make it clear that while soldering wires is in many situarions preferred if it is done imperfectky it is dangerous.

    for an amateur enthusiast a butt splice is a far safer option. we both know most people just twist and tape anyway and want to share our knowledge of proper wire splicing techniques.

    personally ever since I broke my shoulder I cant control a soldering iron well enough to feel safe soldering wirea together in my car.
     
  12. baddad457

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    There are right ways and wrong ways to use butt splices. I've seen many hundreds that were done wrong. I taught myself the right way after a few years of trial and error. Most of the el-cheapo crimping tools do nothing more than mash the splice instead of actually crimping it. As for training needed, that should take all of 15 minutes to do it right.
     
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    Agreed. When using butt-splice connectors, I crimp them the correct way, and also put a piece of heat-shrink tubing over it.
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    someone want to do a...tech article...on how to...:bouncy:
     
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    Ok, here you go: Use the correct size splices for the wire size you're using. Use a crimping tool that actually crimps the splice, not the el-cheapo that just mashes it. I use two tools, one that crimps, the other strips and cuts the wire. I bought both at an electrical supply house, not the local parts house. Crazy Larry's advice about heak shrink tubing is a good un, although I've never used it. I use a good brand of eletrical tape instead. Wire loom should be used where the wire's exposed. Don't strip the wire more than's necessary, about a quarter inch for single wire splices, a little more for double or triple wire splices (to give you room to twist the wires together before inserting them into the splice) I always twist the single wire before crimping as well. End terminals should be crimped a certain way, if you'll look at the terminal you'll see that there's a split on one side, that's the side that should face away from the crimp. That's about it, unless someone else has anything to add.
     

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