1970 MAverick "Pro Stock"

YUR NOT ALONE!!!

 

Any location anywhere near Chicago sounds cold, Everett

 

Cold is a state of mind! I have heat in my main 30x40. Will probably put a system in that can handle the new building separately. Also want air, I'm getting old so there!

We always went to Disney in the late fall. Last time was during hurricane Hugo so that tells you how long it's been since I was there. We left the area 36 hours before it hit land. Good times!

SPark

 

Get back to work, you've been playing around to damn much. I want to see PROGRESS!!!!

 

Back to work!

Sold my Falcon so I have a lot more room to work now. Also have more money. If you've seen my other thread on fiberglass hoods, you know I just ordered a hood from US Body Source by way of Jegs.

http://www.jegs.com/i/US+Body/277/MVH-1/10002/-1

Also spent some time talking to my favorite machine shop and when the Falcon is actually out of the building (waiting on a little nicer weather) I will be ordering all my valvetrain pieces and they will do the work (convert to screw in studs, valve job and assembly). We're talking new Manley Race Flo stainless valves, Comp Cams springs and retainers, Harland Sharp rockers and a Jomar stud girdle for the 351C 4bbl heads. In the mean time, I'll do a little "work" on the bowls and chambers to tune it all up nice.

Can't find an old school deep sump Moroso or Milodon oil pan (deep but don't want any kickouts) so I'll just build one myself.

As soon as the Falcon is gone and I have all my room, I'll pull the motor, deliver the heads to the machine shop, start moving the spring towers and be back on track.

Later,
SPark

 

Isn't the Moroso #20560 about the same as they would have used/built back in the 70's?

 

I don't remember them having the square sumps. Usually a stock style pan with a strip of metal (1-1/2 to 2") added and the bottom of the sump re-attached.

Check the fine print on that pan from Jegs or Summit and it usually re-routes you to a Canton pan with kickouts since that Moroso pan isn't currently available it appears.

 

Yes, I remember those also, but I know I saw a few back in the day that had square sumps, I know my B/SM Maverick had one made from a stock Boss302 pan..............maybe Moroso or someone sold just the bottom half,
where you cut of the sump area and weld on the new one.
I know Canton will custom make one without the kickouts...........it's only $100 more than a normal one...........you just have to furnish them with the dimensions..............and any extras like baffles/scrapper etc.

 

Why did you go with that particular hood instead of the forum member Maverick Man who sells carbon fiber ones. I believe they're only a 150$ more, plus they're a perfect fit.

Do these hoods fit perfectly?

 

This car is being built as a 1970 Pro Stock tribute car to 1970 NHRA rules. I've always loved the 1st year Pro Stocks and the Mav was my favorite. Everything on this car except the tires and seats is from 1970. Didn't want to run fiberglass seats, don't trust them so I went with the poly seats that are the same basic shape. My other deviations are I'm using a 9" instead of a Dana 60 and I will start out with a 1970 4bbl closed chamber Cleveland (yes, a couple cars may have had Clevelands in them at times that first year but most were 427 SOHC or 429 Boss. If the money fairy smiles down on me it will be switched to a 429 Boss, the block and some other parts are in the corner already for that).

In 1970 carbon fiber didn't exist. Yes, the carbon hoods are extremely nice, just not "right" for what I'm doing.

As for the fit of the US Body hood, we'll have to find out in a couple weeks when it gets here. I've seen an original 1970 Pro Stock glass hood and they are pretty rough, this will be better than that one is or I'll send it back.

SPark

 

I too have seen some of those original parts and you could slice your hands on some of the glass fragments that weren't fully embedded in resin on the undersides. This one will be considerably heavier in comparison.. but will be stronger and of better quality to be sure.

A new "Mock Boss" would be killer in these cars! When I win the lottery.. mine will get a full aluminum Boss stroker motor.

 

Talked to Kaase about a Boss "9" upper end kit. Heads, rockers, valves, springs, cam, intake, pistons, valve covers and a plug wire set run right at $7500 and it on a stock 460 style block so you don't need the original Boss 429 block.

http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=219

Like you, I need the lottery or a money fairy.

SPark

 

Yeah.. I've talked to Kaase about his small block heads before and I'd LOVE to go all in for one of his Boss setups. That's one smart dude.. and I study just about everything he does.. short of going to the bathroom. Figuring out why he does certain things to a particular cylinder head is a bit tougher though. lol

Back to the Cleveland style heads.. I finally set enough cash aside and almost bit the bullet to get a bare set of his P-38 heads to work over a bit.. but then I came to my senses on this particular buildup in regards to slapping them on a mostly stock blocked 302(polished rods with .060 hyper's). I do still have dreams about them on occasion though(yeah.. I'm a hardcore engine guy.. lol).

Then I almost switched gears to an aftermarket Cleveland style head(there's instant street cred to be gained with 302 BOSS emblems on any Ford or Mercury, right?).. but found some bare RHS 160's to chop the hell out of instead. The welding is finally done to raise the intake ports and I just need to cut into the pushrod chokes so I can sleeve em' up for offset rockers. Then comes the heavy angle milling and flowbench work.

My patience is quickly thinning, although the sub-zero weather surely adds to it, and I'm guessing your world moves in slow motion too when you're chomping at the bit to get things done. Right now I just live vicariously through others buildups and look for tricks to steal.

 

Yeah groberts101& IM14,we are all alike,engine guys who want to squeeze every ounce of power out of what we have to work with.I know I`m not going to be satisfied w/ the 351w I`m building,but in the spring or summer I plan to catch up w/ Jim Stugart at one of the pro stick races at MIR.I want to find out what he wants for a set of Winston Cup hds,then in the next couple of yrs I want to build a 408 & get ready to make 800HP.

 

The last engine I had in my dirt late model was a Motorsports G351 block with a very nice set of Ernie Elliot heads and intake that made over 700HP with 364". It was a nice little engine. Bryant crank, Carrillo rods, Wiseco pistons, Comp roller, Jessel shaft rockers, 5 stage dry sump. That would be a good Maverick engine.

We routinely get 550 out of fairly mild 351W in our IMCA style dirt mods on gas. Nothing too special, just match the cam/intake/carb.

Working now on getting all the parts lined out to build the 351C. First time building a Cleveland block. I've had Clevors before and have a good friend that is a Cleveland nut so he's "on call". This is a poser race car/street car/show car so it's all good.

I do have an early 460 long block sitting in the corner if I find a way to do the Boss 9.

SPark