Engine seized from excessive fuel. Why?

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  1. scooper77515

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    Running a Holley 750 Street HP and 110 gph electric fuel pump.

    I had cut away most of the fuel lines and was replacing with new hard lines and new braided stainless. Before I started it up, I wanted to check for leaks, so I turned the key to ON, fuel pump pressurized the system, and I spent maybe two minutes checking the lines and connections for any leaks.

    I have never let the pump run this long before starting the car.

    Anyway, no leaks, fuel pressure steady at 6 psi, tried to start the car. Two pumps on the pedal and didn't immediately start. Turned the engine over a few more seconds and it stopped. It wasn't a hard stop, as if the engine had oil starved and seized, or like something solid was dropped in through the intake.

    So I pulled all the spark plugs and turned it over again, and tons of gas shot out everywhere.

    Plugs back in, started up almost like normal after a little bit of turning over.

    Why did this gas dump into the intake?

    Do I have some valve or other broken or malfunctioning in my carb?

    Floats were ok last time I checked, but that was well over a year ago.

    Anything else I should check out?
     
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    6 Psi shouldn't be enough to push the needle off the seat. It is usually caused by a stuck float or high float setting.
    Turn the pump on and look into the carb to see where gas is running in. A stuck float will usually cause fuel to come through the vent tubes.
     
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    Btw you should change the oil as soon as you figure out the problem.
     
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    With all of the new fuel line installed you more than likely have metal particles stuck in the needle and seat. I'd unscrew the needles and check before I ran it again.
     
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    Due for an oil change soon anyway.

    I will check all of the above. Hoping it is just a float set too high or something simple.
     
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    And run a compression check just to be sure you didn't damage any internals with that "hydraulic" stop...
     
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    I have had the same thing happen. All it takes is a little piece of old hose, rust, or grit to get stuck in the needle valve and cause flooding. I would (in addition to what "Maverocket" said, remove your fuel line at the carb and let the fuel pump run fuel into a container for several seconds. This high volume flow will help to flush any crap out that's in the system. :)
     
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    I believe my Holley black pump is pre-set at 8psi :)
     
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    Pull the carb apart. Im betting you have debris in the needle and seat. Clean it up and reassemble. Replace fuel filter depending on location and flush the lines. I got a tiny piece of fuel hose stuck in my secondary needle after doing my line change. Not a big job but annoying.
     
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    Everything mentioned above is exactly right. This is a common problem after working on fuel lines. Flush the lines like simple man and Darren already mentioned. Don't be surprised if it happens again.
     
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    why do you pump the pedal with an electric fuel pump? the gas dumped into the intake because the pump was pumping it had to go somewhere:hmmm:
     
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    No choke. So I prime the engine with two pumps of accelerator pump. Otherwise, won't start. Especially when the weather is cold.
     
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    Pretty common, done that a few times myself and it can be a real pain. Your lucky it didn't fire that would have been bad. Remember to look down the carb first and be thankful you had a smaller fuel pump because it don't take long to fill a motor up.
     
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    So, to prevent this in the future, just don't let the fuel pump run without the engine running?
     

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