Bringing this up only because I read of someone putting a LS1 in a Mav. If interest I will post properly in classifieds, this is motor and trans, built in 2008, never fired, rotated regularly, bore scoped 8 mos. ago.
why would anyone put $5000 worth of..."better aftermarket parts"...on a 302 and call it a "Ford Motor"...
LS motors make lots of cheap power and will easily fit in our engine bay unlike the ford mod motor. I would put an LS in mine of I wasn't such a ford purist. But one thing for sure is an LS will never be a ford motor no matter how much you spend on it.
semantics. same could be said about any aftermarket bolt ons for any engine. Generally speaking.. the architecture stays the same and is what keeps a Chevy a Chevy and a Ford a Ford in the end. Otherwise.. we'd be calling the LS motor a Chevy with Ford heads. I look at non-politically correct swaps like this. HP is just HP and when you have more?.. people know only one thing for sure. They're pissed because you beat them with it. I've been beat by Chevy's when I was driving a Ford.. and beat by Fords when I was driving a Chevy. Either way hurts a guys pride and makes him strive for more HP. LS motors are undoubtedly among the best bang for the buck when it comes to low budget HP which is what makes them so popular regardless of where brand loyalties may lie. Plus.. they're damned near bulletproof for those who want to just leave them bone stock and cheat more airflow into them with a turbo install. Tough to say that about many other 2 valve motors these days.. old or new. PS. I just looked at the most recent Car Craft issue and there are 3 Fords which are well known in the street racing scene in my area. 2 late model Mustangs(late 80's or 90's).. and one early Falcon. All run an LS motor with turbo. Way above my power levels and they are fast! I know this for sure because I watched one of those clapped out looking Mustangs beat a twin turbo powered Supra that makes around 900 korsepower. The LS motor is stock and the guy just throws another one in it's place when.. not if.. he pops them open.
Now days LS motors are like Mustangs, everyones got one. Why anyone that likes a Ford car, would put a Chev motor in it,is beyond me. I have enough confidenace in myself and my machinist, that I can build a small block Ford, that will give any LS motor a run for its money, regardless of what I spend. I'm not in the car hobby to save money. There has to be some pride in building a nice car, and not taking the easy way out. But in the end, its your car, do what you want.
Confidence doesn't make a car any faster, Dave. And dollar for dollar.. you'll never keep up with one due to the natural mechanical design progression. Personally speaking though.. I do completely agree with you. There's just too many options these days to really NEED to use a non-correct make motor in our cars. But.. that's the nature of hot-rodding. People just want more power than they can really afford to make on a limited budget which makes these swaps so popular. Simple bolt-ons give you a 500 horse motor that idles like its barely anything more than stock.
Like I said, dollar for dollar, I don't care, and the world as progressed just fine, without your advice on everything. :Handshake
Ok Allright as someone said these motors are abundant but in 2008 not quite as much AND I'm posting the invoices on here so everyone can see what was done and what comes with it ALONG with the $$$$ spent. Therein lies a huge portion of the problem, my friend is in no need for money (the same cannot be said for myself) and so a fire sale is out. In fact I would like for those in the know to look over the invoices and tell me what you think the motor and trans is worth? Not based on what was spent but as you can see the motor was built based upon using Corvette wiring, code, etc. Then I'll decide to post it on the sale forum here or not, for those curious it was going to go in a 1952 chopped top chebby.
I'm saving the LS conversion for when we find a 66 Malibu for momma. Once there are more Coyotes in the wrecking yard I'll consider that swap for my car.