Manual steering vs. Power steering???

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  1. mavzac

    mavzac Mexican Maverick Owner

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    my dream is possible, transform of manual to power steering, but somebody knows the approximate cost???, all part, bump, etc,etc. Just I little aprox, no more!! please!:bowdown: , not exactly, just for give me a idea.

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  2. Mavaholic

    Mavaholic Growing older but not up!

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    I've sold complete power steering assemblies for arount $125.
     
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    ive got just about all of the parts for a I6, never hooked it back up when i switched to a v8. but i havnt really missed it, it dosnt steer bad even when your sitting still. earlier when i first bought it, i replaced the power steering control valve. that was expensive(around 175). not sure if i would want to sell all my stuff yet. all i need to do is hook up 1 hose and i would have PS again.
     
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    I have a power steering setup on my car minus the pump.
    The only difference I'm told is centerlink and pitman arm?
    Care to trade?
     
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    Centerlink, pitman arm and steering box.
    The steering box difference is due to a different number of splines on the pitman arm and steering box depending on whether you have manual or power assist steering.
     
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    does any one know which is "better" .
    I've got p/s wanted to go to with manual....if I pull the power valve, pump etc but left centerlink and all how would it be?? does the manual box have a better ratio?? trying to eliminate weight and belts. thanks guys
     
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    Andysutt '72 Comet GT

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    My car was ran for years w/o the power steering pump etc
    still has everything else on it however.
     
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    I thought someone said something about the "ram" "locking up" without thhe pump to helpit along......or is that also disconnected but still there on yours?
     
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    Andysutt '72 Comet GT

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    Still connected I think.
    Havent really looked. I havent gotten to drive my car since I bought it
    redoing the motor.

    Steered fine going on/off the trailer.
    And was raced the way it sits
    I'll check as soon as it quits raining
     
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    thanks ...also do you know of any pitman arm idler arm etc that could come from amustang or anything that would help with the handling???? suspension i dont know much about ... i know our cars are simular to 71-73 stangs in the front (or at least ive been told) do you know of any thing or one who could answer a 5 year olds ques. like mine or a good book.(my favorite ques. just like a 5yr old is ...WHY???
     
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    Andysutt '72 Comet GT

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    I know you can use granada disk brakes and stuff
    but dont know about the pitman arms, etc
     
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    if you just remove the pump, you get slop in your steering. This can be corrected by swapping the centerlink, pitman and steeringbox, swapping the power steering control valve, or removing parts from the control valve and tightening it down and greasing it well.
    You then have the quicker response of the faster steering ratio, no slop/slack in the steering response, and a cheap fix.

    The ram could lock up as it is nothing but a hydraulic shaft, it will get worn without lubrication, it could get dirt in there, stop up the holes, etc, and cause problems. added in edit: if a daily driver. I'd take it off, just to be sure, but I had it disconnected on mine for a time and drove it for awhile without issue.

    I took all of my power steering stuff off and replaced the control valve with a manual adaptor, which is nothing but a modified control valve base with no springs, etc... power assist never did work quite right on my car and I didn't want to sacrifice any turning capability with the relocation bracket after headers.
     
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    ive taken my pump off, but i still have the power assist ram thingy. is this why my car handles like **** over about 95mph? i dont notice any slop at lower speeds, but at higher speeds i drift all over the road, i hate it. also have the header relocation bracket installed.
     
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    yea, the way the power assist control valve works is it slides from side to side, jetting pressure to the appropriate hose to the ram. not quite that simple, but that is the jist of it.
    Mine had about 1/2 inch of give, from all the way left to right. 1/4 inch each way. With the car parked, turn the wheel a bit and see how much it has to move before the tires have tension on them. I could get about a 15-20* turn on the wheel with the pump removed and the control valve still in place. I get like 5* or less now.
     
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    p/s v.s m/s

    i changed out my p/s . i changed all but the gear box and i love the way it handels it still turns on a dime :thumbs2: :thumbs2:
     

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