351 into a 72 maverick grabbler

What year 302/5.0 determines flexplate or flywheel balance, prior to '82 it's 28oz same as all 351, '82-up are 50oz...

From '70 until end of V belt era most all passenger car alt and P/S brackets can be used... Harmonic balancer thickness varies, when using a late model engine a spacer under crank pulley is often required...

The 200 radiator uses smaller radiator hoses, I wouldn't even consider it, or not using a shroud...

The 200 uses a three bolt starter same as FE engines, they will work on small blocks, at least with std manifolds... vs the correct starter they clock a 1/8 turn or so counter clockwise, cable connection may give issues using headers...

 

I'm assuming at this point that it is a 6er. Lol

 

Im hoping to go electrical fan.
Ps would be nice but not a must.
I was planning to fork out 300 to 400 on a hard core radiator. ( Cooling is our friend )
Most likely I'll need a front sump oil pan won't I? Man that's food info I appreciate your help¡

 

Unless you modify chassis you'll definitely need a front sump pan, before Fox('78) & Panther('79) chassis everything was front sump...

 

Ok cool.
My next question would be do these car have a engine cross member? Or does it have a belly bar? I keep hearing people say cross member and or belly bar? Excuses my ignorance.

 

AFAIK same thing... There is no actual crossmember but there is a bolt-in belly bar...

Here's mine laying under car when I was restoring the engine compartment...

BTW the steering linkage sets exactly where a rear sump pan would fit...

 

That a pretty looking engine compartment you have there sir.

So for this swap is there any reason that the belly bar would need to be changed out?
I was worried this was gonna be like a subframe car or my last car - dodge dart 67.... To do a v8 swap from the slant 6 you had to swap the k member.

The location of the steering link shows clearly why the engine would need a different oil pan.....

I appreciate your help bud. I can assure you two things. I won't stop updating this post until the build is finished. I also plan to have the car on the road with in the next month or so..... I don't plan to drag this out.
Once again I appreciate you bud.

 

Thank you!! I wimped out in the middle of resto and let it set for probably six months before completing the engine install...

I see you confusion now, the 6cyl cars did not come with the bar, V8 item only... I don't know of any differences between years...

 

So on non v8 cars is the option to add the belly bar there? I believe the car has one in place already. I can't remember exactly but I thought I seen one.
I was to busy checking for rust....
Here in Oklahoma we have ( my experiences finding classic cars is ) either there completely rusted to death - or - they have no title and or tag- or they want a crazy price for them.... When I seen this one had a good tag and title - I turned my attention to rust.... There was none the rest I figured would fall in place.

 

Hi Slayer:
JMO .. I've done both the 351 swap and the 347 .. and BY FAR .. the 347 swap was simpler , less expensive ,
and had Power to Spare . Withe the 302 block there are Headers available , the block FITS in the engine compartment WITHOUT major surgery , and the power yield was great . The 347 dyno'd at 380 hp .. and the 408 swap in another car was about 490 . The 351 swap entailed removing the shock towers .. major surgery on the tunnel to accept a Tremec 5 speed .. had to raise the floor 2-1/2" inches , installed a better hydraulic clutch setup , and many other details that goes with that kind of swap. Love the cars .. both of them .. each has their OWN personality and power bands. I personally would go with the block with the LESSER alterations to your car. In BOTH setups I would recommend installing Sub Frame Connectors to avoid twisting things underneath . I ' notched ' the shock towers for the 347 swap just enough to make it easier to change plugs . If your towers are removed you're way ahead. JMO like I said.
Cometized
(Chip)

 

"Facelessnumber" has a detailed thread about his 351w swap, I'll try to find it if I get more time.

It wound up parked after starting to rip the car apart.

Edit: little light reading : http://mmb.maverick.to/threads/351-windsor-swap.75870/

 

I pulled a 302/c4 from a 73 grabber. It's sitting in the shop in my way if you're interested let me know.

 

I think so, don't remember anyone having issues... That's almost a surprize as Ford usually did not install the threaded inserts in chassis for equipment not installed... In past I've had to install them for z bar mount when going to a manual transmission and most recently when I added P/S to my CJ...

 

Yes I would be very interested in it. I'm slowly deciding to move away from the 351. From what I have read the 302 is capable of the same thing up to around 500hp. The 351 has a stronger block that will make exceeding that number easier. Not really for for more then 300ish rwh.

 

Yea I think I'm convinced that 302 is the way to go. Just cause of the room. I'm not trying to make crazy hp so I don't see the point of all the extra work. If I should get a hunkering for more power I can always swap heads and cams.