timing conundrum--Please help!!!

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  1. syklops75

    syklops75 Dont touch the spark plug

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    if i ever get it running ill fix that. but the hose was torn so ill have to find a new hose for it... sides.... i like the cap and breather the chrome valve cover came with
     
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    You can get a piece of 3/8 hose and the PCV valve at any auto parts store.
     
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    Yes, static timing is actually a procedure that mechanics used when points systems were the norm. Have to have switch on to supply power to the coil. Just make sure your spark plug is grounded properly. Don't crank it over, just rotate dist. body back and forth to get spark. If dist and timing componets are right where you get spark snug dist clamp down, engine should fire up. Compression test is a good idea if it doesn't run. Just make sure to remove all of the plugs and block throttle plate wide open in order to get good reading. Also disable ignition system. Hope this helps.
     
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    syklops75 Dont touch the spark plug

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    ok.. i will definitely try this
     
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    syklops75 Dont touch the spark plug

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    update so far.. tried the static timing thing and got spark. but i did notice that when i did this the rotor button was halfway between #1 and # 6... this ok or do i need to restab the dizzy? i am on hold for now till my friend gets off work to help me. so ill get to work on it some more this evening. however it does now feel like its trying to start. or at least its making a lot of vibration. and shakes the whole car as if its trying to
     
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    Sounds like you may have dist. off a tooth or two. If you can't get it to run,I would start over from square one and re-time engine.
     
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    syklops75 Dont touch the spark plug

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    good news and bad..

    ok heres the update for now... im hoping this will ring a bell in someones head and they will know what to do. i did the static timing thing and got it set by restabbing the dizzy like 12 times but i got it really realy close... she turned over like she was trying but no go.... the i unplugged the pcv valve hose... and with a friends help halfway cut off the air flow..... SHE STARTED.... she ran for ten secs and then died... tried again... she caught and fired for 5 secs and died... now no matter what i try she wont start again.. very strong smell of gas ...could she be getting too much gas maybe????? i apppreciate anyones input.. this is the first time she has fired in nearly two years during the takedown and rebuilding...do i need to figure out the exact way the vaccum lines need to go? am i choking it off cause of eliminating that??? is something wrong with the air flow?? im so close its killing me...im all excited now that she ran for ten secs...:dance: :dance: :clap:



    but what now???:huh: what am i missing???
     
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    Remember when I said something about a massive vacuum leak? I learned this a long time ago working on a long dormant hemi. We gave it a tune-up, everything fresh. It would not start, was getting fuel, spark and air. In the right order too. Then an older guy came up and put his hands over the throat of the carb and said turn it over. We cranked it and it fired, but badly cause it had a BAD vacuum leak in the rotted intake manifold gasket. Trip to the autoparts store the next day and we replaced it. That was 30 years ago. I still know where that car is.
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    syklops75 Dont touch the spark plug

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    this is all new gaskets and seals... would that still leak like that? i even tried the hands orver the carb deal and that didnt work either
     
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    I personally have had gaskets slip on me while putting stuff together.
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    syklops75 Dont touch the spark plug

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    very good possibility.. but it DID fire up for like ten secs .. now im going to go out and see if it will start again.. acts like it might be getting too much gas and not enough air.. or at leasts smells like that anyways.
     
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    If it is getting too much gas the plugs should be wet if you check them.
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    syklops75 Dont touch the spark plug

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    the plugs asrent soaked.. but they are damp.. could that be a symptom or a result o not firing and cranking
     
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    Phil I thought of you Saturday, I got some calls during the week from a dude with a Shovelhead Harley that was having problems. I gave him some tips and he called me friday nite. Bike would not run and plugs were wet and fouled. He was convinced it was carb. I was convinced it was timing, he was convinced he had it timed correct. Went over saturday and timed the bike, put fresh plugs in it and it runs like a dream. Better than he ever can remember. Static timing is a great thing to know. You stated you did it, but not any real info on what you learned, Just a thought, are you sure you have the plug wires correct?
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    sounds like flooding to me. check the bowl to make sure it isnt sticking open. maybe leave the air cleaner off just till you get it running right so you can make sure it isnt flooding out the top of the carb. also, make sure the choke is set leaner than richer. JMO. at least the intake gasket isnt really an issue on a 6
     

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