What will it take?

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  1. Country Mav

    Country Mav Die-Hard Ford Guy!

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    I'm just wondering if ya'll can tell me what it'll take to put my 302 powered maverick into the mid 12's (without nitrous). I'm hoping to finish it off this summer, and I want to have a reliable mid to low 12 second car. I need to know everything necessary from the fuel pump to the heads and intake. Here's what I have........

    302 +40
    Flattop Aluminum Pistons
    268* camshaft
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    Ported, polished, shaved heads
    Stock 2 bbl carb/intake
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    I know I will need a good intake setup along with a good set of heads. I need to know everything else, :rolleyes: I know it's asking a lot, but I want to do this during my summer vacation. So if ya'll could, just list what I'll need, and any tips or tricks ya'll might have. Thanks, Country Mav
     
  2. PINKY

    PINKY .....John Ford.....

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    Besides the intake and carb.

    A good gear like 3.55 or something around there with a posi-loc and a set of slicks should get you there pretty easy.

    Also, anything you can do to save weight!
     
  3. Dan Starnes

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    Jegs has a new head coming out that is going to change the smallblock ford hp race. It was in Car Craft recently. I am waiting to see more info on them, so I am waiting to see what head to buy. John is right on the money, Heads, intake, big enough carb and fuel system to feed them and the right rear gear, along with the ability to launch will get you your goal.
    Dan
     
  4. Country Mav

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    I was looking at these heads, but I don't know a thing about good heads.......could somebody give an opinion? I like the looks and specs of them, but what do I know? And I know that this has been discussed before, but which year of Fords had positraction or limited slip that will work in a Maverick? I can't remember. Thanks ya'll, and keep the suggestions coming! Country



    Here are the heads I was looking at..........

    http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=156886&prmenbr=361

    By the time I add both heads, pushrods and valve covers, it looks like it'll run about $1900.00 plus shipping.........that seems high, but is it worth it? Give me some feedback please......Country

    Just for kicks....

    http://www.airflowresearch.com/
     
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    I would do the other stuff first and see what happens. Dan made good points. I would try the stuff mentioned before spending money on heads, if all you are wanting is 12's. It can be reached with a mild 302 with good stuff in it(see above).
    It is more important to make sure what you have works together.
    Alot of money is often thrown away by people buying this....and forgetting about that, then they do not see the full potential of what they have. It all needs to work together. 12's is a very obtainable goal for a mild street 302 in a maverick do to the light weight of the car.
    You are researching it...which is good. But I had a very, very mild motor in my car before and it was a 12 second car. Nothing special in it at all except the gears and slicks. The motor was plain jane 302 with torker II intake, 750 holley, headers. The bottom end was bone stock.
    But before I spent $2000 on those heads I would go with the afr185's. They have been proven to make big power.
     
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    Now, if your wanting anything other than 12's. Heads will definitely help the cause. But a set of Windsor heads and the stuff that Dan mentioned will get you in the 12's. But...........if your like most people, once you get a 12, you will want a low 12 , then 11's then 10's.....its a BAD desease!!!
    Good luck.
     
  7. Country Mav

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    Yep!

    I prolly only run 14's now, but I already want a 12 second car. One day I want to have a reliable and streetable 11 second car. That's my ultimate goal. But 12's are really good enough for now............;) Thanks ya'll.......Country
     
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    Country, I hit the mid 12's with windsor heads. 1965 289 heads, milled for compression, ported and 1.94/1.6 valves installed. Solid cam (although hyd would have worked fine) with 3.00's and no stall! Now I have all the right stuff (same heads) with 4.11's and 3000 stall and the RAIN WON"T STOP! Bought my heads from PAW in 1984 and loved em ever since. Although the call of aluminum is getting harder to ignore!! Scotty P
     
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    Mid 12's w/3.00 gears?
     
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    I know my buddies' Buick Skylark GSX 455 Stage 1 motor runs low 12s with 3.31 gears.........So I think it could be done with a real torquey motor.(y)
     
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    i think they will have a hard time out flowing AFRs 185s wont come close to the 205s
    look the the flow and lift 800 lift :eek:
    331 cfm intake @ .800'' lift and 210 cfm exhaust @ .800'' lift
    afr 185s intake 277 at 600 191 at 600
    was told my AFR 185s flow 300 and 212 upgrades was done by AFR cost more and thats at 600 lift :D
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    canted heads need the lift and they dont even offer a spring to suport the max flow 800 lift
    1.535'' springs w/.750'' max lift for Solid Roller Cams
    1.460'' springs w/.610'' max lift for Hydraulic Roller Cams
    Outflows many Big Block heads; 331 cfm intake @ .800'' lift and 210 cfm exhaust @ .800'' lift then 160+ for valve covers couse the the outdated stock design wouldn't fit

    LoL there a joke get you a set of 351C heads would do better
     
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    i think with engine you have for high 12s
    3.80 gears
    posi
    sticky tires
    performer Rpm air gap
    some sort of 600 or 650 dbl pump
    low 12s
    above with
    AFR 185s :D
     
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    THANKS!!

    I'm starting to snag little odds and ends as I find them. Look out ya'll- Country's headed for the 12's!! :bananaman :clap: :bananaman :clap: :bananaman :clap: Thanks to all of you for the info and advice! I really appreciate it as always! Preston
     
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    BMC, yep. Running a predator great torque and with 3.0s 1st gear lasted a looooooong time!!!LOL Scotty
     
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    Country, I have an 8" locker for sale if your interested with 3.80 gears complete pumpkin ready to bolt in. it only has about 1000 miles on it I'm askin $450 +shipping. I bought it last yr for over $600.I switched to 4.62 so I need to get rid of this to keep financing the parts for my mav.:D
     

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