351w where

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  1. Comet-73

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    I was just wondering if some one had a list of what cars came with a 351w in them, i got mine out of a montego, but i need another so if any one could help and lead me to another or even if some one has one near my location.
     
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    full-size Fords, Mercurys, Lincolns all were available with 351w's. Some had 351M engines and 400's as well as 460's, so the only way to be sure is to just browse around and find one. Most of the mid-80's crown victorias had 302's in them from what I've seen. A lot of mid-70's LTD's, Torinos, Gran Torinos, Marquis, and many trucks/vans had them as well. If you're lucky enough to spot a van with a 460, get the oil filter adapter off of it, they are a great way to make oil filter changes easier as they spin the filter in any direction, even upside down (if the chassis will allow it).

    I usually just skip all of the cars and start looking in trucks from the late 70's up until '96 when the modulars started appearing. Usually, the trucks have stronger rods than passenger car models. Other than that, they're basically all the same, except the very early windsors that had a 9.48 deck height. All the later ones (about '74 and later) are 9.50" deck, but slightly lighter weight block (weaker??). I've heard that most all 351w blocks are good for around 750 HP.
     
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    The most consistant place I have seen is in vans, which are often over looked.
     
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    ok i will go check the vans tomorow before work how do i tell if its a 351w, is there in specific marks i can look for on the engine. mine is almost idenitcal to a 302 a little bit bigger but not much differnt.
     
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    The ways I use are the bottom thermostat housing bolt is not covered by the water pump/timing cover and there is a notibly larger verticle brace on the block under the the thermostat housing also.
     
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    Ok thanks i never noticed that before.
     
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    Ok i found an old van its a 351 but im not sure what kind of 351 it is, 351w, 351m, 351c will they all fit my car or only the windsor if is a c or an m will there be any mods needs to the car. i guess i got a good deal $50 but i got to pull if from the van my self.
     
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    351w is what you want, I have not personaly seen a 351m in a van. easy to tell the differance, the thermostat is in the block on the 351M's and in the intake manifold on the 351W
     
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    Pulling this engine from the van is proving to be quite some challange is there some special way any of you people have gotten one out of a van is it easyer to pull it from the inside or hack of the frount and pull it out.
     
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    get out the torch.

    If yopu're getting the motor from a wrecking yard, just bring a torch and keep cutting until it's easy to get at.
    Just make sure they don't mind first.
     
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    The van is at an auto wrecker, i have a pretty strong feeling he wont let me hack it to peices so is it possible to take it out through the inside of the van.
     
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    many moons ago, a friend and I pulled a W from a '83 1/2 ton van from the front. After removing the condensor, radiator, core support, grille and everything else out front, it came right out. Also the bumper had to come off. IT wasn't as hard as it looked. I also pulled a 460 once from a 3/4 ton van at the salvage yard. That was an experience! There was no one to help, no lifting device other than a forklift, hand tools only. Someone had already robbed the trans so that part was easy. All I did was loosen the mounts, rob the filter adapter (first thing that came off LOL) and gave it a shove to the rear, which allowed it to fall out of the frame and under the van. Because I didn't have any stands to hold the van up and pull the motor out the front, I used my old Ranger pickup and pushed the van's chassis over the motor, basically the engine rolled under the van, but it finally worked. The man on the forklift lifted it into the back of the truck, and told me that since I had done all that work I could just take the motor, no charge (other than a lift fee...which was $10 at the time)

    I won't do that again. It was about 95 degrees, 100% humidity, and the van's interior was crawling with snakes, rats and mosquitoes. Lucky I got out of there without getting bitten or catching malaria!
     
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    Ok thanks this sounds like its going to be a full day project. Also i would like to put it in my mav and use the tranny thats in the mav so how do i go about taking it out what all do i need to disconnect.
     
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    the most difficult engine i found pulling out was a 440 magnum out of a 69 Dodge Charger R/T SE.. The guy wanted to put the legendary Hemmi in there i dont know why i thought the 440 was alot better engine but he just wanted a show car....but that engine put some big bucks in are pocket when we sold it!
     
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    I would first take all the converter bolts loose and the starter out. Remove all the bellhousing bolts and any linkage and wires. Remove exhaust pipes but leave the manifolds on if possable. Get a couple of old seat belts out of another car or such and cinch them around the manifolds. Lift the motor up and pull it foward off the trans. Chain is the preferred lifting device but most yards in a pinch or hurry will use the seat belts because they are right at hand and very strong. Have seen some use fan belts but this is not a good idea. Be carefull and be sure the van is blocked up well and anything you want on your body to go home with you, is protected from accident. Take some hand cleaner and rags with you and maybe a change of clothes too. Can get messy doing this but it is not as hard as it looks. It boils down to man over machinery and using your ingenuity, you can get it done.
     

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