ok lets build a 351 w FOR THE STREET

Please show me a set of headers, currently available for purchase at a reasonable price, that fit a 351w in a Maverick with stock suspension and have bigger tubes that that. You have built a lot more engines than I have, but I have built a 351w Maverick with stock suspension.

If you can show me those headers then I fully concede, he should spend his money on the heads. But if he is stuck with 1.5" tubes then I think it's a waste.

 

I'm getting mixed feed back here. Just to clarify, you're going to buy fully assembled heads,rockers, pistons, rings, brgs, machine work, full gasket set, intake, headers and cam/lifters (FT or roller) timing set etc, etc, etc for this 351 for $2500?

 

nope all i have to get is the machine work done and my buddy and my dad and me are going to put it together i just dont like to go to my dad for help

 

If the metal tag is still attached to the tranny case there should be a part number that ends in "-XXX". That will tell you what you have. For example, my T5Z ends with -251. That means it's a 330 lb ft unit built by Tremec after they bought the design from Borg Warner. A -249 is the same trans originally built by Borg Warner. Find your dash number here:
http://www.mongosgarage.com/tech/t5/T5NumbersConsolidated.PDF

 

CRITES


I believe that should be checkmate.

 

So I put this list together tonight. Not one of the regular builds I do but it shows what you can do with some quick shopping. Should you do some careful shopping along with buying used heads, intake, carb, rocker arms, etc.....you can lower the cost of building an engine like this by about $500-700 dollars. I've seen heads like the units on this list for sale on several websites for $500-700 a set. Used rockers around $100. Intakes....Performer RPM Air Gap and/or Stealth used for $125-150. Carbs....jeez...everybody knows where to find them for $100-200. Toss in a rebuild or trick kit and you're good. List doesn't include a distributor or wires/plugs. Those are necessary but you should know that going in anyway. This engine should yield an easy 375-400 hp and 400 tq under 6000 rpm on pump gas if built right. I used Summit pricing just for quick reference. Like I said, do some shopping and you can build this at or near $2500.

Tank/clean - $75
Bore/hone - $150
R/R Pistons on/off rods - $80
Install cam bearings - $40
Install freeze plugs - $25

Total Machine Shop: $370 (estimated)

Bolts
ARP Cam Bolt - 154-1001: $2.82
ARP Balancer Bolt - 150-2503; $24.99

Engine Rebuild Kit
Sealed Power - MHP176-300; $409.95
Pistons & Rings
Rod/Main/Cam Bearings
Gasket Set
Oil Pump
Freeze Plugs

Camshaft/Lifters/Timing Chain-Gears
Howards Cams - 220051-12; $99.95
.496"/.520'
223/235
112 lsa (install 4 degrees advanced)
Lifters - $50
Timing Chain/Gears - Summit Racing SUM-G6651; $37.95
Pushrods - (Depending upon measurement); $100 (estimate)

Induction
World Products Windsor Sr. - 053040-1 (x2); $1182.90
Rocker Arms - Harland Sharp S4003; $240.00
Intake Manifold - Weiand Stealth 8023; $205.95
Carburetor - Holley Vac. Secondary 750, 0-80508S; $309.95

Total Parts: $2664.46

Grand Total: $3034.46

 

Yeah? And where can you buy those right now? Don't forget about that budget, either... I didn't see any headers in your otherwise excellent parts list. (I didn't spot the roller cam and lifters in there either, but maybe I overlooked that...)

 

By the way, since I'm not a total ass... That was a nice thing you did there. I'm guessing you must take your meds in the evening.

 

Id just sell him my 351 w. It went 7.50s in my car I have a new victor jr intake also

 

Classic CCG,

I've been following this thread and just got totally lost, are you saying that you are going to stick with the stock 351?
My Maverick was an old B/SM car back in the late 70's and early 80's and ran a stock block 302 with Cleveland Heads, they use to call those Clevors, but the motor fit in the stock engine bay without shaving the towers and the owner built his own set of equal length headers, (I will try and find a picture) and the car with a 4spd did 10.3's all day long.
My point is, why not build your own headers, it will be a great experience and if your dad and buddy are helping you and I think you could make them fit even if you didn't shave the towers...................it would just be a real pain to change the plugs. To bad you are so far away, the one thing I really enjoy is making headers..................it's time consuming, but a lot fun, and a lot cheaper than buying headers that don't fit correctly...............plus you can make they for your specific motor............size/length etc.
Here are a picture of mine, 1-3/4" stepped to 1-7/8", the motor is 408 and pushed the Maverick to a 9.801 with a tired motor that was over 10 years old and had never been torn down.............this is a drag only car though.
One other thing that ShadowMaster just touched on was the machine work on the block. If you are staying with the 351 have the following machine work done as it will add to the reliability of the motor; the mains need to be line honed, check deck height, have the block machined for priority oiling. Also, make sure that when they line hone it they have attached the deck plates that they use when boring and honing. It will cost a little extra but will certainly extend the life and reliability of the motor.
Keep us in the loop as you do this.
For headers, bigger is not always better....................IMHO

http://mmb.maverick.to/showthread.php?t=77886&page=2

 

wow this is going to be a five year project i want some thing to have some fun w and learn more about this part of the project it is easy to pull a motor and put in to some thing a mack to run but i have naver got in the the machine work of all of this so now im going to take my time and get it done right i just dont want it to take five years

 

hey buddy our cars look totally alike ecept the front bumper ,color, rims and all

 

Maybe I can save you a lot of time money and headache trying to build a good 351 stroker with all the components needed ie.carb intake, fuel pump, dist, etc for 2500 will be tough so here ya go one of the best street stokers out there and you can't build or buy it for what I will sell it to you for it cost 7700.00 new but to can buy it for 4500.00 carb to oil pan only 1500.00 miles on it we pulled it because customer wanted a Big Block Ford FE motor in his 66 Fairlane so do yourself a favor beg borrow or steal enough to buy this one you can't do better!!!!

 

I should have said it is a 392 stroker with the Motorsports Sportsman block all forged rotating assy and hydraulic roller cam makes 434hp and 450 ft lbs of torque but runs on pump gas and very good street manners here is the motor link and plenty of others out there just first ohttp://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy01.asp?T1=M6007D392FFT+01&Category=Engine&subCategory=Engine&CatKey=EMUSTANGne I picked.....

 

wow if i had the caash i would but wow some will pick that up thank you :Handshake