What are these pistons?

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  1. Streamliner

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    I've been away from tearing into motors for awhile....289 which i'm updating to AFR 165's....Cam is unknown but with a dial indicator i'm coming up with about .475-480 on cam lift...Are these pistons killing compression?....What's a stock 289 {'66} chamber size compared to the AFR'S?

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    Are you going to take them out? The notches on the side make it a little tougher to CC, but it is easy enough to do yourself.

    If I had to guess, they look like a Keith Black 281 - which has a 6.5 cc reduction in compression which is not a really bad killer. In a stock engine that would give about a 9:1 ratio with a 60cc head

    But this is just my guess - the only real way to tell is to CC it yourself ........ :thumbs2:

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    Do you have the stock heads? What are the casting numbers and we can look up the chamber volume.




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    what is the ...deck height?

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    No i wasn't gonna take them out....Motor is fresh...The heads are '65 non hi-po's...The AFR's have a 58 cc chamber
     
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    Don't know....I guess what i was wondering is did 289's have flat tops and if so do these notches lower compression.....In other words for example if a stock 289 had 10:1 compression with flat tops and if someone rebuilt this engine with these notched pistons did that lower the cr and will putting the AFR's on lower it more
     
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    According to my chart, all 65 289 heads, hipo and regular, had a 54.5cc chamber. While you will lose a bit of compression with the 58cc AFR - the flow will be so much better than the stock heads. I'd go with the AFR.

    Here is a great read (with pictures (y)) on the 65 pistons and heads.
    http://www.fordsmallblock.com/PDF/Pistons.pdf


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    Oh, and I need to add - don't forget the stock cam has been changed. Depending on what that cam is doing those bigger valve reliefs might have beeen needed to avoid a piston - valve collision.

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