Thought I'd share some first-hand experience with Summit's bargain priced paints. The stuff is dirt cheap, comes in a nice selection of colors, sprays pretty nice, and will MESS YOU UP! Last Monday I sprayed some parts for a buddy's model T with the stuff, used a brand new resperator, ventilated the shop, with a fan pulling out, filters in the windows, just like I had many times before. It turned out good, cleaned up, went to bed. Woke up Tuesday with a little cough. Woke up Wednesday, and couldn't walk to the truck without stopping for air. I'm now on steroids, and inhalers, trying to straighten my lungs out. The lung specialist looked shocked that I had no history, or family history of lung disease after looking at my test results. That made me nervous. I'm feeling better now, still can't do much without stopping for air, and I've lost my voice (some may like that part). It looks like a wait-and-see if it will clear up. I'm not trying to bash the paint, or the manufacturer, or get sympathy. I'm just putting out a reminder to take care of your self, and be careful around the stuff. I'm thinking the $600 for a supplied air paint mask is cheap in comparison to not being able to breathe.
that's crazy...last night i was looking to order paint from them - went to check shipping costs and it comes up as they wont ship to me anyways...maybe im lucky?; they have nice colors though hopefully you recover well and are back at it soon.
"bad cold" that's the excuse I'm using when it comes time to paint again I'm really mad about it trying to kill me since they have a near perfect match for Gulfstream Aqua.
maybe just reacted to a chemical in there...can happen sometimes since I'm sure every pain color has different chemicals in it.
Did the paint have ISO-cynanates in it? Some paints from what I read are only supposed to be sprayed while using a fresh air device, maybe this was one of them?
Yep, while sitting around, since I couldnt do anything else, I checked the MSDS. A little late, but anyway... It says to use fresh, positive pressure air from opening the can, till all residue is evacuated. I probably would have blown that off if I'd read it anyway. The stuff is not realty suited for the home shop, unless you spend the big bucks for PPE.
Sorry to here that, I always used ppg or limco paints my self. But , the fumes alone can harm you if you don't have a exhaust fan that can move alot of air. When I was done a dump truck that I painted an blow my nose. You would not beleive that overspray you can breath in. Really bad.
Hope you heal up man...The paint systems out now are bad gree gree. One of the reasons for the water borne stuff. I need to buy a positive pressure set up come summer time myself.
As a longtime painter who consistently uses Urethane's for my refinishing business(which are VERY heavily laden with isocyanate's due to being industrial grade products).. it surely sounds to me like you: possibly used the wrong type of filters/pre-filters(not all are created equal and have their intended applications).. perhaps the charcoals were expired or simply became saturated(they need to be bagged/sealed to maintain effectiveness).. or the masks valving failed which causes leaks and bypasses the filters from doing an effective job(which happens quite quickly/easily when the overspray is not effectively evacuated and they become "sticky"). I actually use both methods and do have a 2 man fresh air unit that I occasionally drag around to jobsites with me for larger jobs.. but usually prefer the 3M fullface respirator with fairly frequent cartridge changes since it's so versatile and quiet compared to that noisy pump with 75 ft of hose and filtered intake hanging out into a fresh air source. Is especially nice to use one of the hood style masks in the summer since it cools you down during work.. but it is cumbersome at times. I've been sick before too(unfortunately, when you smell paint?.. you're already exposed beyond acceptable limits) and can only tell you that the effect is similar to chemically burning your lungs(don't ask me how I know that either).. and eventually wears off after a few days time. Until then.. go easy with heavy breathing activities.. avoid ANY dust or smoke.. and use a dust mask whenever you may be exposed to anything airborne to keep your recovery from going backwards. Hope you feel better soon.
Always best to start a new thread when you have a new question. But, I will help you out. Any auto body supply store can custom mix you any touch up paint.
I used Summit's Acrylic Urethane product over a few days for my car. Had the basics as far as respirator and ventilation and had no issues whatsoever. This was in my garage as well which is not the best location as far as space is concerned. I tried to be diligent about the fumes but came away surprised that I noticed no effects at all. Having done some auto painting back in the 80's I expected worse. Not trying to say you did something wrong but my experience with Summit's paint was entirely different - I ended up getting more affected by the lacquer thinner I used to clean out the guns afterwards. Take it seriously though as you don't want to suffer long term for a paint job.
any paint with isocyanates in them will mess you up bad you should wear a full face respirator you can absorb it through your skin and through the tear ducts in your eyes so you should wear a full body suit too . i saw a guy spray imron paint once without proper ppe he never recovered . I hope you just have a cold
