Looking for an Engine Builder

I am going with Fuel Injection.

 

Thanks for letting me jump in here and ask questions too Tom.

With your build progressing so nicely for your dad, I'm sure you will end up with a very nice setup, once you consider all your options, and do your checking around. This is what is so nice about this forum. We get to hear so many different points of view, and advice, from members with expertise in areas we may not have. I appreciate it

I don't know of anyone who has had Precision Racing, in Tennessee, do their engine, but When I talked to them at length on the phone, they seemed willing to work with me on customizing it to my liking. I'm just not sure if I can afford them:

http://precisionraceengines.com/cra.../ford-347-stoker-turn-key-crate-engine-425-hp

They seemed willing to tweak which types, and brands of components, the customer wanted (within reason), to get your business. They also can put on different types of heads. I have heard that RHS Pro Action heads are good, and they build with those, as well as Brodix ported heads.

My goal is to make my engine setup look as stock as possible, on the outside, within reason (It will be far from actual stock), and I know to do this, and still have between 350-400 HP, takes some considerations, to make that work. They also told me that I could pick which year of 302 block to build on, in case I needed year specific areas of the engine, to accept, and mount year-specific hardware, for the stock look, from the build out.

I will probably end up having a nice builder in the Phoenix Metro area, build mine, so that I can maximize on site communication.

 

I have heard really good reviews and things about Fordstrokers. He is willing to work with you on building exactly what you want.

Here is the link to his website:

http://www.fordstrokers.com/

What about going up to 363 instead of 347??? Same stroke, just a bigger bore.

 

My, opinion, and others hopefully will chime in too, is that anytime a builder is willing to work with you, to get your business, that is a good thing.

I see that one of the brands of heads they use is AirFlow Research. I'll have to read up on those. Thanks for the link, I had never heard of them.

...And as far as Stroking to 363.....I may not even end up Stroking at all, and just having this engine built for high HP with good heads, cam, intake, etc.

When I first envisioned my build around 5 years ago, I was excited thinking about a 500 HP / 347 Stroker...but as I have slowly progressed on my Project...I am personally realizing that I don't need that much power, for the Trailer Queen that I am building.

I can't wait to see what your dad's Maverick ends up looking like when it's done....You are doing a SPECTACULAR job!

 

All well & good if one doesn't mine shelling out $2k just for the block(yeah I'd love to have one but practically trumps want)...


Lemme ask a question... Dad owned what I assume was a stock Maverick back in the day, is he really going to appreciate all the custom stuff or would he have been just as happy with a sharp looking, slightly warmed stocker???

 

To be honest I think if I would have just bought a $2500 running maverick he would have been happy but I really want to give him something that is not your ordinary run of the mill gift.

Obviously I sensing some negativity about the level I am building this car. I am sorry if it makes people have any ill will or feels. That is not my intent nor do I want to make waves. I will start contacting members that will be willing to help me through PM's and not ask simple questions like "Does anyone recommend an engine builder."

 

I say just let those folks be touchy all they want. Shouldn't stop you from leveraging the help from those who can better help you end up where you want to go.

Have to keep in mind that public viewpoints vs PM's can help far more folks down the road too. Envious as they may be.. even the critics learn something new on occasion too. lol

And as for feeling bad about others monetary restrictions.. I can tell you without a doubt that I have no reservations about buying a $5,000 transmission for my car and posting up pics of the conversion for others to see and learn about the pitfalls involved.

To me.. this place is all about sharing and that's what I'll be doing as my build starts progressing no matter whether everyone agrees with my budget, parts selection, color taste or not.

 

I appreciate your feedback in the previous post. I truly believe you understand what I am trying to do. Thanks for the encouragement on the build.

 

No problem and don't sweat it at all.

If you really look around this place for very long.. some of the very best cars have been built by guys who go their own way. Slicing, dicing, engine swapping/mod'ing, you name it.

While I have absolutely nothing against a near stock restoration with a mildly warmed over 302.. the ones who think outside the box are the ones I really pay attention to since they have to pave new paths along the way. Some may not like it or completely agree with their direction at times.. but when they get it finished up.. not many say it sucks. Stay the course and arm yourself with as much info and education as you possibly can.

As for the difference between a 347 and 363?.. more power at the same exact price. Fatter and flatter torque band at lower rpm which is easier on parts selection and overall longevity. Milder convertor(if you go auto) matched to a taller gear will be much more civilized on the street too.

 

guys going there own way producing some of the worlds finest 1 of a kind automobiles. dont let the nay sayers discourage you from your dream.

I also felt the deep pocket comment as Im building my car $100 here and there. I have $11000+ into my engine alone and STILL have a ways to go but its my dream and I dream BIG lol

I knew the 363 was the same price as the 347 and knew about differences in power and torque but didnt know about it being easier on parts. now IM even more glad I went with the 363

hey cruisin please keep your questions and build updates public its nice to see this car as it comes along. I wouldnt always do things the way you do but thats one of the great things about cars you can make them your own and do what ever you can dream to them so they truly become yours or in this case your dads and not just another car that everyone else has

 

Here is my opinion, I know nothing about high end stroker motors but I do know that a company that did well for one person doesn't mean they will do the same for you... I say do your research and buy the best parts available... I have found that a lot of top notch strokers start with a aftermarket block IE: Dart... Oh! and I understand what your doing with your one of a kind build, It humbles me to think what a son will do for a dad he loves... Good luck and build on...

 

It's only easier in respect to achieving the same power levels at lower rpm's, is all. A 363 will make roughly the same power as a 347 at about 300-400 rpm lower in the power band. Not just from the added cubes.. but also with the unshrouding of the valves that comes as an added bonus with bigger bore motors.

That might not seem like much.. and it isn't for the typical 6,000 rpm street build.. but when you start turning 7,000+ rpm and making bigger power.. that little bit of rpm savings = many hundreds of pounds of added stress on a crank/recipricating assembly. Unfortunately, some of that reduction in rpm related stress is negated due to the added piston weights of larger bore motors. Which is why I usually lighten everything possible without sacrificing durability for the rpm/g-forces involved in each specific build. Which is why all my motors are always so snotty sounding regardless of power levels. If you want more inertial weight added for drag racing?.. add it where it belongs. In the flywheel and tires.

 

FYI. I deleted my previous post, I could say more but I'm sure someone would get offended. Good day all.

 

I don't know of anyone who has had Precision Racing, in Tennessee, do their engine, but When I talked to them at length on the phone, they seemed willing to work with me on customizing it to my liking. I'm just not sure if I can afford them:

http://precisionraceengines.com/crat...-engine-425-hp

This is the shop that built my 347, i reserched them for about 6 months before I drove over there (McMinnville is about 1.5 hrs from my house), they gave me a tour of their shop and their dyno room. I talked with the person that would be building my engine, and one of the owners did all of the extra porting and polishing on my heads. I think they did an excellent job but it was not cheap, I wanted around 500 hp and 450 lb torq what I got was 512 hp and 438 lb torq. we had a few problems with the springs and lifters but they worked through it and handed me just about what I wanted. my engine cost around $7k intake to oil pan, but I had specific parts that I wanted to use and that drove up the price. With all of this said I would recommend giving them a call.

Thanks, Chuck

 

Thank you for the feedback Chuck! Its nice to hear this input from a long time member on here.

And I also appreciate Everyone else's input too.

And Thank you Cruzin, for letting me ask questions in your thread.