Explorer rear

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Mavaholic, May 19, 2003.

  1. Mavaholic

    Mavaholic Growing older but not up!

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,975
    Likes Received:
    187
    Trophy Points:
    258
    Location:
    Live Oak, FL
    Vehicle:
    Original 72 Sprint Owner, 71 Comet GT, 57 Ranchwagon, 57 4 dr Wagon
    I think its been discused about adapting one for our use. I put brakes on my daughter's 98 Explorer last weekend and took these measurements. 59 3/8" mounting surface to mounting surface and 39 1/8" center to center on the perches. So if you wanted to use a late model wheel which usually has at least 5" back space The explorer will work with just relocating the perchases.

    To refresh, a stock 8" is 56 1/4" surface to suface and 42 3/4" center to center on the spring perches.
     
  2. Lightning

    Lightning Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2002
    Messages:
    261
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Saskatchewan ,Canada
    Vehicle:
    1971 comet GT
    What do explorers use for a diff ?
     
  3. Mavaholic

    Mavaholic Growing older but not up!

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,975
    Likes Received:
    187
    Trophy Points:
    258
    Location:
    Live Oak, FL
    Vehicle:
    Original 72 Sprint Owner, 71 Comet GT, 57 Ranchwagon, 57 4 dr Wagon
    Its an 8.8 with disc brakes.
     
  4. jeremy

    jeremy I build t5's

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2002
    Messages:
    1,426
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    110
    Location:
    Corona, Ca
    Vehicle:
    1972 2 door 302 maverick, 1986 5.0 stang gt convertible,66 mustang coupe, HEMI ram
    If people are going to go this route, I would suggest to pick up an 8.8 from an 87/88 thunderbird turbocoupe. The automatics had 3.73 gears and traction loc from the factory, and the manuals had 3.55 and traction loc from the factory. I picked up mine for less than 200 disc to disc. (has rear discs but four lug) I would take the 8.8 rear and combine it with the explorer axle tubes and perches.....One very low budget cheap fast setup.
     
  5. Grabber75

    Grabber75 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2003
    Messages:
    497
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    58
    Location:
    Mount Vernon, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    1975 Maverick Grabber
    hey jeremy you can always have the axles redrilled for five lug
     
  6. jeremy

    jeremy I build t5's

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2002
    Messages:
    1,426
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    110
    Location:
    Corona, Ca
    Vehicle:
    1972 2 door 302 maverick, 1986 5.0 stang gt convertible,66 mustang coupe, HEMI ram
    pretty much all 8.8 axles swap. I would think you could swap the explorer axles into the turbocoupe rear to get 5 lug.
     
  7. Country Mav

    Country Mav Die-Hard Ford Guy!

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    1,770
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Evans, Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    72 2-door Maverick 308/C-4
    Has anyone done this?

    If so, what do you think? I am seriously considering this swap. Thanks, Country
     
  8. jeremy

    jeremy I build t5's

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2002
    Messages:
    1,426
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    110
    Location:
    Corona, Ca
    Vehicle:
    1972 2 door 302 maverick, 1986 5.0 stang gt convertible,66 mustang coupe, HEMI ram
    I can tell you for a fact that most/almost all of the axles swap. I decided NOT to use the disc brakes from the turbo coupe rear, and swapped back in the 8.8 drum axles from the old rear and converted it to drum brakes.

    I know for a fact that a 5 lug conversion is common on these rears in the mustang crowd. I am pretty sure many people use ranger axles.

    I am curious too if anyone has done this too, as it would be a pretty hot set-up

    edit: now that I think about it, it would be easier to just find the turbo coupe rear, pull out the entire section with the gears, and swap that right into the explorer rear, so that you now have an explorer rear with 5 lugs, and the 3.73 gears, then relocate the spring perches, and you are set!!
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2003
  9. AdsMav

    AdsMav Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2003
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Ontario Canada
    Vehicle:
    1976 Maverick
    I've never done it, but I've heard you can take 2 left side Ranger axles and 2 Ranger brake drums to convert a Mustang to 5lug.
     
  10. Mavericknutt

    Mavericknutt member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2002
    Messages:
    694
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    BoisdArc mo.
    Vehicle:
    1971 maverick 2dr m2 front end coil over ladder bar rear suspension 472 ci. C-6 tranny
    Our exploder has a 3:73 gear set and is limited slip.......alot of them are.......
     
  11. Country Mav

    Country Mav Die-Hard Ford Guy!

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    1,770
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Evans, Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    72 2-door Maverick 308/C-4
    Okay- Question

    If I were to use this rear end, what would I do for U-joints and a driveshaft? I mean would it be a custom driveshaft, or just use the explorer ujoints in the mav shaft? Curious here, because I am starting to search for an explorer rear. Thanks, and sorry for the beginner questions. Country
     
  12. Mavaholic

    Mavaholic Growing older but not up!

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2002
    Messages:
    14,975
    Likes Received:
    187
    Trophy Points:
    258
    Location:
    Live Oak, FL
    Vehicle:
    Original 72 Sprint Owner, 71 Comet GT, 57 Ranchwagon, 57 4 dr Wagon
    I didnt noticed what kind of U joints it used. If its anything special, just cut the end of the drive shaft off of the truck your getting the rear out of. Any place that does drive shafts can graft it on the end of yours. The biggest obsticle I see is the extra 3" width. You would need wheels with around 1 1/2" more backspacing than what your running now. I know you can buy premade spring perches, I'm not sure where. Probably Jegs and Summet carry them. That would be better than trying to reuse the ones on there. I've been looking for explorers around here just for the disc set up but havent had any luck. Here you can buy the whole rear complete for less than $100.
     
  13. Country Mav

    Country Mav Die-Hard Ford Guy!

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    1,770
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Evans, Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    72 2-door Maverick 308/C-4
    The complete disc to disc for under $100 dollars.........That's a deal! I plan to do a Mustang II conversion this summer, and would like to find a Lincoln Versailles or an explorer/T-bird rear so I could have discs all around. We'll see. Country
     
  14. Charlie

    Charlie maverick.to/grabber

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2002
    Messages:
    491
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Indianapolis, IN
    Vehicle:
    1970 Ford Maverick Grabber (Modified)
    Just as an added note the Explorer rearends are ALL 31 spline so the axles definitely will not swap with car 8.8 rearends.

    The Rangers have 28 spline however. :)
     
  15. CornedBeef4.6L

    CornedBeef4.6L no longer here

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2003
    Messages:
    5,217
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    137
    Vehicle:
    no longer here
    gOOD pOINT cHARLIE That is why the rear disc off exploers only fit the 9 inch big bearing(31 splines) without major mods or improper fitment issues. Bear with me I have a super cheap alternative coming soon. Working on the tech article as we type.
     

Share This Page