200 swap for a 302/ AOD?

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  1. captainmack

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    I have a 72 4 door Comet and need more power! My friend has an '84 302/AOD package for me that will need going through, and has anybody out there done this? If the car codes are correct, I currently have a C4 tranny and a 8" 2.79:1 rear axle. Is this enough ratio? Apart from brake upgrades and peripheral issues like that, should I do this with the AOD or stick with the C4? Did comets come with any other automatic tranny? I like the idea of overdrive, and I will build the engine up mildly, headers, carb, heads....Any thoughts? Thanks.
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    Guess it depends on what kind of driving you do. If the car sees alot of highway driving, it may be worth it to put the AOD in. Otherwise I would just stick with the C4 for ease of installation. With a 2.79, the car will be bogging like crazy if it can even get into overdrive. You will definately have to swap out the rear gear.
     
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    Thanks, for the info. I have since seen that there are a lot of threads on the topic.
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    I'm running a 3:1 rear, factory on the Crown Vic my AOD came from was 2.79:1. It'll work, but it won't be a monster, lemme tell ya.

    If possible, get at least a 2000 stall converter or 3.55 minimum rear before you do the swap. You will actually get better milage @ 55mph with 3.55 than with 2.79 or 3:1. At 70mph running 2000rpms, I never had to move the pedal. Under 2000rpms, I had to gas on it to pull hills and let off on the downside, made my milage worse. 24mpg @ 70mph. Roughly 20mpg @ 65. By the time you figure in aerodynamics, get the gears and get better milage overall.
     
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    So finally........ I get to talk to someone with an AOD.. !
    Are any of the nightmare stories true about the AOD? I was just about to give up an stick with the C4. It appears, only from what I've read, that one must upgrade, with a pricey kit, several components of the AOD for it to be reliable. You are using the AOD , I assume and not the AOD-E or the later 4R70W? and they are in your '74 Comet? was shortening the drive shaft required? I see that the AOD is 3/4" longer (I think) than the C4. before I do this I need to find out what the gears actually are in the C4. I wonder if the final C4 3rd gear with my 2:79 rear is similar to the AOD's overdrive 4th with your 3:55. I'd be nuts not to find this out first, right? Maybe it is the same or similar, but on gets the faster off the line gears? And OK.... I'm a dummy but I would be in your debt if you could tell me ....what is a stall converter????? I am a boat plumber electrician/ mechanic, and we just don't have those on boats...
    You obviously have reasearched your numbers regarding milage/speed/ rpm's....
    Thanks for your info!
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    I too installed the 5.0/aod combo into my 73 mav and i did need to shorten the drive shaft one inch. had to make my own mount. but have yet to put it on the road. need new brakes and shifter installed
     
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    how would u shorten the drive shaft length.
     
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    Take it to a shop that can do it. You would want to have it balanced also.
     
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    The C4 has gear ratios of
    1st 2nd 3rd
    2.46 1.46 1.00

    while a 1984 aod from a mustang has:
    1st 2nd 3rd 4th
    2.40 1.47 1.00 0.67

    with those gear ratios I would do what 74 merc said and add a nice stall converter and at least 3.55's
     

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