351w need another oil pan

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  1. Bioinfomatic

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    I was wondering for a 351w install in a maverick, will a front sump oil pan be required to make fitting easy or can I use the factory oil pan?
     
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    You will need a Front Sump 351w pan.
     
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    ...because the W is wider than a small block at the pan rails
     
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    :naughty: Uh-Uh. The difference is in the rear pan radius that fits the rear main cap of the Windsor. If the pan rails were wider, then the 289/302 timing covers wouldn't fit. Same timing cover dimensions for all three (289/302/351W)
     
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    +1 (y)
     
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    Get a pan off a van or truck - I know the vans use a front sump and I believe the trucks do to0.
     
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    The 1980-up truck/van 351's had a 3/4 sump pan. It's not front or rear, but 3/4 of the way to the rear. Easiest way to get what you want is buy a new one at the local parts house.
     
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    Where can I get that type of oil pan with a dip stick tube?
     
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    The original oil pan seems to work, It looks like I just have to notch the frame a little bit. Does this seem like a common maneuver? :dancing:
     
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    noch the frame? no that doesnt sound right??

    a front sump pan drops in as-is. are you working with an aftermarket 8qt pan or something?
     
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    My pan came out of a 1975-6 van. it is a front sump pan and you won't need to cut anything. It is always better to cut the pan than it is to cut the frame.
     
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    There were two diffferent stock front sump pans for both the 302 & 351. One was the 5 qt car pan, the other the 6-7 qt. truck pan. The main difference was the length of the sump.
     
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    I looked at my blocks and the 351 pan is wider.
    The timing covers are the same, but the 302 pan turns 90* fast and tight right at the width of the timing cover. The 351w pan turns the 90* to the side pan rails very lazy, making a wider radius turn. Adds a half inch or so per side.

    Aftermarket 302 blocks use 351w pans because they are wider and allow more room for 'stuff' in the bottom end.
     
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    I've seen plenty of front sump oil pans on eBay, but they have no dip stick tube.
    How would I change or correct that problem?
     
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    cut a hole and weld the parts in out of the other pan.
     

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