cluch pedal questions...

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  1. David74maverick

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    I have a '74 maverick automatic car. I bought a clutch assembly off here or ebay awhile ago (close to a year) and lately I've been getting ready to put either the bracket and pedals or just the pedals in... now my problems... where the pedal bracket bolts to the fire wall, the two bolt holes/nuts on the left side of the bracket are the same distance from the verticle part of the bracket... they are verticley inline with each other on my car, the other one I bought the lower left mount is further out than the upper one... is it off a differant year? can I use it?
    Than I was thinking about just using the pedals on my current bracket... now the problems... the bracket that the pedals came off had reinforcements around the pedal mount holes (where the clutch pedal bar went through) and the one in the car doesn't appear to have that reinforcement, another problem is that on my car the brake pedal appears to be hung from the mount by a bolt instead of a stud like the one which is protruding from the clutch pedal so I don't know if I can even use the pedal in my bracket, the head of the bolt looks to be a 9/16 or 5/8" hex... I'm sure I could make something work if I could get the bracket out... how difficult is it to remove one? there is alot of wires and stuff under there I can't even see the right side of the bracket or even get my hand on the right side... is there any instructions or details on how to remove the bracket? I really hate working underdash for exactly this reason... I'd appreciate any and all help. thank you.
     
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    turns out the guy who sold me my pedals said they were maverick and sent me mustang pedals and bracket.... does anyone know if '67-68 mustang pedals will work on a maverick? thanks.
     
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    i dont think they'll fit.... that's why most of us hold out for the Mav/Comet pedals
     
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    I can't seem to find any though... I've only seen one in salvage yards but it's at the one salvage yard that charges the most for parts... I bought a V8 trans mount from them afew years ago for $75 (old and used) and I was there a couple weeks ago and they wanted to charge $35 for a engine to trans spacer plate... I didn't buy that one... so I can only assume how much they will charge for a pedal assembly, probably in the $150 range...
     
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    the yard i go to has a couple mavs with clutch / brake pedals assembles still in them. send me a pm and let me know what price range you are looking to spend. I maybe going there this weekend.
     
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    well to be honest, that's about what they sell for. i usually sell mine for the $125 range myself unless they're in really good condition
     
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    There is a yard here with several Mavericks with pedals. I am trying to recall if any were standard shift...:huh: The pedals for our cars are unique among Fords. Others won't fit.

    I made a set for my 75 using old Stang pedals, but I had to use the auto pedal support and mod the heck out of it. Lots of cutting and welding. The only part of the Stang pedal assembly I ended up using was the clutch pedal itself. I had to mod my brake pedal heavily to fit it. The Stang brake pedal was not suitable, just as the pedal support itself was not suitable.

    Oh, I used the rubber pad off the brake pedal too.
     
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    I picked up a pedal assembly from a local yard for $106.70 with tax... it's in very good shape even the nylon bushing show little ware. The thing is it's off a '73 and my car is a '74, are they compatible? the bracket that every thing hangs from has a offset to it. Also the spring on the clutch pedal to the bracket, would I use it on a hydraulic or cable setup? or is it only for linkage? thank you.
     
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    It'll fit. Just take out your auto pedal support, then drop in the 'new' one.
    As long as it's from a Maverick.

    If you intend to go with a cable or hydraulic clutch, then you will have to re-engineer the whole thing. A friend of mine used the entire pedal assembly from a 5.0 Stang to get a cable clutch. Don't ask me what he did to get it in there, but he says it was easy. Probably just drilling some new holes in the firewall.

    A hydraulic unit would use a plunger arm, similar to the linkage arm that plunges into the back of the brake master. So you could probably just mod the stock arm that goes through the firewall, into a plunger for your master. Then you just need brake line to run down to the slave. Or you can just do away with the slave and run your line to a hydraulic TO bearing for the simplest install. They say it's expensive though.


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    I know some stock late model clutch masters have the plunger rod built in. I believe the 4th gen F-bodies are that way. If so, you just mount the master on the firewall, and wherever the end of the rod lands on your clutch pedal arm, make a mounting point there. You will have to factor in the travel of the plunger arm though. You shouldn't allow the pedal to push the plunger into the master further than it is designed. You need to leave the return spring in the pedal support too, with these other setups, there is no way for the pedal to reliably return to a rest position.

    The set I made from my auto pedal support required a heavy spring in the engine bay for the pedal to return. I had no way to put the Maverick style assist spring in the auto support.
     
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    does your 74 have power brakes?
     
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    no power brakes. the distance from the pivot point to the master connection point looks to be the same. I really wanted to go with a hydro setup but as of late I've had more than my fill of fabrication so I'm leaning over to a mustang steve setup.
     

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