I'm looking at EFI for the Tangerine Dream. Must keep the functional hood scoop so I have narrowed it to these choices. Tell me what you guys think 1. leave the carb setup on and finish tuning it. 2. Mass-Flow system ($3000.00) 3. Boss EFI System ($2100.00) 4, Holley 950 Commander TBI ($1650) My opinion right now is to get the holley becuase of some extra features that Boss efi dosn't have and the cost of the mass flow
Not trying to be smart, but there's your answer. You've already formed an opinion, so you're not likely to change it. Like my 'ol grandpappy used to say, "Do what you want, you're going to anyway."
I'm looking at the exact same stuff right now, My mechanic (RIP last Sunday) put a Holley system on his 66 Galaxie last year and loved it. Also Frank tried one of some other make and didn't have much luck, maybe see what one he had tried.
I guess I'm looking for what expereance poeple have had or have heard about. I just made some changes to the jets in the carb I have and maybe this will change my mind. I just feel that some type of efi could get the most out of my street boss engine. Not the best street set-up but, it sure sounds and looks cool.
You have a car that is easy to diagnose and work on.... Why confuse everything with electronics and an on-board computer? You can get that system on new cars.
Frank was trying to use the Holley system and never got it to work. However, it was determined that there was something wrong with the system he purchased and it was returned. Have you considered this setup? http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new/mc/efi/pf_ford.shtml http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=EDL-35210&N=700+115&autoview=sku It is completely programmable.
From a pure asthetic standpoint, I dont like the Holley setup. The Boss keeps a nestalgia look but I think I read somewhere that it is not yet available for purchase. The Edelbrock above is high dollar but looks to be the same as the Mass-Flo. If it were me, I would go with a MPFI setup. Mass-Flo or Edelbrock. Other things to keep in mind are fuel and ignitian system requirements. As usual, Im no help here but just some thoughts...
I've heared only good things about the BOSSEFI system i've seen two setups my self one was a 67 cougar with a stock rebuilt 428CJ the guy said he drives it every-were and it hasn't had a single problem but its not really a performance engine(he's taking it to the route 66 show next month),the other guy was at the track with his 68 stang that had a 351 cleveland in it, he said it took him a while to get it set up for the track but on the street it teaches itself the tune. the company's located in corona 951-737-2006, might want to give them a call and ask if it has some of those holley features or if you can tap into its computer for furture tuning.
looking over the diffenent products the mass-flow one is obviously a factory ford system modifyed for aftermarket use. The trick thing about that is there mass air meter. now with our limited hood clearance there is going to be hardly and space between the air cleaner lid and that meter. they tell a good story on that site and i bet there system works well becasue the ford fuel injection works well. you would be beter off buying a 89-93 5.0 mustang for that price or less and transfer its fuel injection over pluss you now have a whole car to part out or do with as you please. you will get beter performanc out of the mustangs fuel injection due to the fuel injection desgined intake. the aftermarke f.i. intakes for the mustang are alot beter suited for it also. I know this went a bit off topic but it should give you another option to think about.
Thanks for all the input I decided to play somemore with the carb since it is up and running. I could use this money to make some changes to Tammy's car. I just changes the jets and it is running alot better. 67 to 65 main and 73 to 68 secondary I think 67 would work on the secondary Thanks agian Tom H
I agree,why pay to make things more difficult?Keep it simple,it gets complicated enough sometimes as is.
Do you have a LM-1? Carbs are easy to tune (HOLLEYS ANYWAY) But trying to read plugs without experience is a lost cause. The wide band sensor is a lot cheaper than a new carb or any kind of injection. The LM-1 is a simple to use tool, I dont understand why anyone with enough sense to try to tune a carb wont use one. Im going to share a little story about the wide band sensor. I put 2 narrow band sensors on the Maverick after the Blower install (had heard all the horror stories about going lean). Had the car tuned to what the narrow band sensors said was rite. When the wide band came out for a price i could afford, Naturally i had to get one. What i found was the narrow band sensors was just that NARROW BAND. It took a few dollars and some time but WOW what a difference. Not only did i pick up probably 50 H.P. But my gas mileage almost doubled. Not to mention im not washing down the cylinders with excess fuel. So come on all you people that tune yourself buy a LM-1, I promise you wont be disappointed. P.S. for all of you that are thinking " well if i buy one i wont use it but one time then i wont need it anymore" I have used mine on every vehicle i have, (To tune for gas mileage.) And besides your buddys that dont know how to tune will think you are a guru when you hook it to their car.
