Flogging a dead horse...

Discussion in 'Technical' started by |MaverickMat|, Apr 19, 2006.

  1. |MaverickMat|

    |MaverickMat| '74 Grabber

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    Not to do what I said above... but on the subject of the installation of power brakes, I found a company that I believe offers a booster/MC setup that bolts directly into the exising MC hole. No relocation of the cylinder or addition of a different pedal for leverage... I think. It's 2am and maybe I'm lazy, but has anybody heard of these guys or tried this particular setup? Sounds good, cause if you keep it lower you might be able to slip it under the shock tower brace. I was going to call, but they prolly won't be up.
    http://www.mpbrakes.com/
    Anybody tried 'em?
     
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    |MaverickMat| '74 Grabber

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    Mavaholic Growing older but not up!

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    It will not fit on a Maverick.
     
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    We should compile more info on the Geo booster swap...
    I have bits and pieces, but the site that had the most detail is now selling the info rather than keeping it posted for free.
    There is a Geo booster that is cheap, easy to find, bolts right up, and does not have all the bracketry on the back that pushes it away from the firewall. Therefore it does not push the master into the tower.
    Dave
     
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    What about shaving the shock tower as you would do with headers or wider engine.....
     
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    1972Grabber Always Broke

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    I have a spare Geo booster in my storage unit and now that I got the 302 in my car, I just may try to toy around with the idea of doing this swap. Since I am also going to be doing the 5 lug conversion sometime hopefully in the near future.

    I am a wee bit concerned that the bore diameter of the Geo master cylinder will not be big enough to supply the brake system with enough fluid/pressure to stop the car. :yikes:

    Big truck + big brakes = Big bore master cylinder (Ford F350)
    Small car + small brakes = Small bore master cylinder (Geo Metro)

    Anyone else have any thoughts on this subject? :huh:

    If someone has some info that they have found regarding this swap - feel free to send it to me. Any and all help is welcome in this endeavor. :Handshake
     
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    sierra grabber Certifiable

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    if you go with the stock style calipers, i dont think the geo cylinder is going to have enough fluid well for a daily driver. as the pads wear, more fluid leaves the resevoir and relocates in the massive piston. if you were to upgrade to the more modern style calipers that use smaller pistons, i dont think it would be as much of an issue. but can you use the geo booster on a mav cylinder? just wondering.
     
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    The swap that I saw used your choice of Geo master or domestic master.
    I say domestic because one swap I have seen uses an early 70s GM master, but I am pretty sure I am confusing it with a whole other option I have seen.
    I think the Geo uses a Ford master.
    I have seen so many varieties of swaps, but I remember the Geo swap was almost a bolt in, that is why I harp on it in particular.
    I just wish I could remember the specifics.
    As for the Geo booster, I am sure it would have very little to do with fluid displacement if you used a proper master cylinder.
    Also, the fluid fills the pistons, what comes from the master is only enough fluid to displace the material lost from the pads as they wear.
    I thought the Geo master was a bad idea too, but I found that the master is a dual system too like ours, just that it uses a single resavior for both lines. The master is more compact than ours and would surely make fitment easier behind the tower even if a older master would fit with a little work.

    I have also seen a site where the guy is selling plans for using a Tempo or Escort power brake setup on Falcons. The little I know about it (because I haven't ponied up for the plans) is that there is a fair amount of cutting and welding to get it working.

    Dave
     
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    Dennis, what kind od booster/mc did that guy have on his car up at Carlisle last year?
     

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