Hi All, My computer at home crashed so I am using a school computer right now to ask you all a question. Anyway, I completed my floor shift swap, and then after starting it up (It runs now too!!!) It won't move anywhere. I am thinking that I didn't line the manual shift lever back up right with the shaft in the valve body that controls the shifts. I am going to drop the pan again tomorrow or the next day and get it figured out. Do you all know of any other problems/culprits it could be? Thanks for the info. Hopefully I will have my computer running soon, so I can be back "in the groove." Thanks. -Corbin
New Developments...... Hi Guys, Here is the scoop.... I went down to the Maverick and started it up. Then I shifted it through the gears and still nothing. Anyway, after turning it off, I unbolted the cooler lines from the radiator and no fulid came out (it was dry). Anyway, later I took of the pan and checked the manual shift linkage to confirm that it works correctly with the piece in the valve body. Everything was fine here, so now I am more confused. Since it is not pumping fluid, is the pump bad, or what? Also are there any other things that I could check. I would like to avoid taking this to a tranny shap, but if I have to I will. Thanks for any and all info. Remember, that I had this tranny apart from the engine when I did the 5.0 swap. Please hep me out here if you can. Thanks. -Corbin
what have you done to the car? Have you removed the transmission/torque converter for any reason? Also, is this a c4 transmission? For some reason, fluid is not being pumped, whether it be because of a clogged trans oil filter, clogged or dirty valvebody causing one or more valve to stick, or possibly a misalignment between the pump drive and torque converter.
Yes, I have removed the transmission and the torque converter. I had to do this to swap trannies on my engines. Do you think that the input shaft and such are meshing with the torque converter? If not I will have to have someone take the tranny out and fix it. Thanks for any info. -Corbin
Oh, yeah. It is a C4, and it can't be the filter because I changed it and the valve body is clean. Thanks -Corbin
Well, I am going to have a tranny shop check it out for me. I know that the C4 holds lots of fluid, but it is not pumping fluid so that leads me to think that other things are wrong. The tranny shop guy said that it is possible that when I hooked up the torque converter to the input and pump shaft that the teeth weren't lined up correctly and after starting the engine it sheared the teeth off. Anyway, the tranny would need to be rebuilt soon anyway, so for $700 I am going to have it redone soon. Thanks guys. -Corbin
RE: fluid capacity According to the 'book', a V-* c-4 holds 18 pints. The six banger version calls for 16 pints. Did you manually fill the converter?
The converter had probably a pint or two in it when I assembled it. It would keep puuring out if it was really full. Anyway, I wasn't really that concerned about filling the converter because in my Mav book it just said if starting from a dry system (No fluid in converter) put in 5 quarts start the engine, shift through the gears and then fill to "Full." I followed these steps exactly but something's wrong. Next week I will take it down to be inspected and if it needs to be taken out and the pump messed with, I will just have them rebuild it and put a little shift kit in it. Which shift kit would any of you recommend. Remember that this is a street car, and I want a little snappier, firmer shifts. Nothing that will rip your head off, just a noticable improvement from stock. Thanks guys and gals. -Corbin
shift kit B & M Shift kit, Ford even makes a shift improver kit. They are all adjustable to my knowledge.
I had this problem with a GM (choke) tranny once. The shift kit wasn't installed right. It took hrs to find that it was ALMOST right, and that a small mistake gave me no fluid flow. If it's not this, which I believe to be rare, sounds like a converter prob.
FLow Problem It sounds to me as though the pump front pump is bad or simply not pumping. I have seen people get a transmission installed wherein the converter wasnt fully seated before being bolted up. This can be and probably is your problem. If this is the case u may well have damaged the tranny, but not necessarily so. Id unbolt that converter from the flywheel, and pull the tranny back and make sure I had the converter seated before I ever started it again!!
Update... I have been talking to people around here and the consensus is that the pump gears didn't mesh correctly with the torque convertor when it was put back together. This is what we were all thinking originally, but hoping that it would be something else. So the bad news is that the tranny will have to be pulled again and the gear replaced, but the good news is a family friend has a cousin that works at a tranny shop and they can get me a deal on a complete rebuild! This tranny shop is a great place. They will even make a payment plan for people who need it. Our friend has frequently sent kids with tranny problems there and they work out a plan so they can pay them back in a way that fits there income/time. That is a very rare thing these days. Anyway, now I can't wait for it to be rebuilt, then I can actually start it up again, and drive it for the first time in 6 months!! -Corbin
