Front hubs from 4 to 5 studs.

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  1. Survival276

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    Hi guys.

    My 70 mav has a 5 stud back axle (No clue where it came from think its mustang) and would like to change the front to 5 studs as well. So i can get some matching chromes.:cool: Having one of the few Mavericks in the UK, parts are rare and shipping is expensive. Is there anything from a mustang that will fit.

    Any help would be great. Thanks
     
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    Since the mustang is the same suspension set up as the Maverick, I would bet the spinlles would bolt right on. I dont know for sure though. Most guys go disc brake which requires a different spindle so you might be able to find a drum set up for next to nothing. Or at least with a "mony back" clause if it dont fit.
     
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    mustang spindels will work... i think it was like 65-73.... early years just have a smaller bearings.
     
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    68-73 Stang fits for sure.
    There are slight differences in bearing size and tie rod bolt size between the years.
    68-69 Torino, Montego, Cyclone, Fairlane work too. (These are identical to 68-69 Stang with the smaller wheel bearings.)
    74-81 Granada/Monarch disc brakes are same-same as Maverick/Comet discs.
    The 64-67 Stang parts should work too. However I have noticed, at least on the disc brakes, that there are far more parts and in a more complex arrangement. Probably due to Ford not being in the disc brake business for long at that point.
    Good luck!

    Btw: I bet that Mav is considered a fairly large car over there! I am amazed at how narrow your traffic lanes are, it would make me nervous to drive there.

    Dave
     
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    The 70-up Mav drum spindle is the same as a 70 (only 70) Mustang drum spindle. Just get the backing plate, drum, bearings and hub for a 70 Mustang and they will fit right on to your existing spindles. You won't have to change tie rods or anything else.
     
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    Thanks for the advise guys. Now i know what to look for.

    Some roads are quite narrow but a deep breath through the tight spots usually does the trick. The Mav makes my MG midget look like a tonka toy.

    Thanks again Mike
     
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    4 lug Mav spindles are the same as 5 lug big bearing Stang spindles?
    I wouldn't have thought so.
    V8 Mavs had small bearings until 72 at least.
    Correct me if I am wrong.
    My 72 parts won't swap with my 75 big bearing parts.
    However, my 72 small hub rims fit 68-69 small hub Stang/Fairlane spindles/brakes.
    I might be wrong, I am just going by my own cars and what I can and cannot interchange.
    Dave
     
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    70-up Maverick drum and 70 Mustang drum spindles, part # D3DZ3105A Right Hand, D3DZ3106A Left Hand. Same part number for 70 Falcon, 70 Fairlane, 70 Cougar drum, 71-74 Comet drum, 71 Montego drum, and 71 Torino drum.

    I ran a 70 Mustang setup for about 10 years after I converted my 4-lug to 5-lug. John Ford now has them for on his car.
     
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    Okay...
    I stand corrected.
    But then why are my hubs so small on my 72? :huh:
    Is the hub smaller, but the bearing the same size?
    I guess it would have to be...
    Dave
     
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    Don't know, I never had any others to compare to. One thing I did notice that is strange is the part numbers of some spindles. The above mentioned numbers start with D3, which would usually denote a 1973-up part. But that's what they list for several 1970 Fords. A 73 Comet disc spindle starts with a D4 (1974) designation and some late 1960's mid and full sized Fords have numbers that start with D0 (1970). I can only guess that Ford was running out of part numbers following their usual numbering scheme and had to use later date codes as a way to tell all the different spindles apart. :rolleyes:
     
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    It still doesn't make sense.
    Mav and Granada disc spindles only work on 74 up Mavs without a tie rod end change.
    They go on a 70 Stang without a tie rod change.
    Therefore, 70 Stang spindles MUST be different than 69-72 or 73 Mav spindles because of the tie rod issue.
    Combine that with the fact that my 72 Mavs have smaller hubs (therefore bearings) than my 75.
    The parts are different. They gotta be.
    If you have an interchange manual that says a 73 car came with a D4 part, I would have trust issues with that list.
    Dave

    Edit: A 70 Stang would not ever have came with a part with a D3 date.
    It didn't happen. A car can have an earlier date than the model year, but never a later date code.
     
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    Like I said, I never had anything to compare my 70 spindles to. The drum/hub/backing plates I had came off a 70 Mustang w/351W. According to Rockauto the 70 Mav and 70 Mustang use the same part number inner and outer bearings. I can only comment on what has worked for me. It would save Survival276 time and money to locate 70 Mustang parts and not have to fool with changing the whole spindle assemblies.
     
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    Just out of curiosity I'd like to see someone else's interchange manual listing for spindle part numbers just so we know for the future, or can maybe make sense of what's going on. Could be, too, in my manual that the later date codes are Ford service replacement part numbers?
     

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