Could this be the ultimate Maverick????????????????????????? http://www.dragzine.com/features/ca...the-details-mike-bowens-coyote-stock-maverick
Not quite. Needs a supercharger pretty badly. Glad to see you around more lately and hope you're recovery is coming along nicely, John.
Yes, you are right and I just read in one of the Mustang magazines where they put a new Vortec unit on a 2014 and made 600+HP. But being Ole School I'd start by ringing out the naturally aspirated motor first, 30+HP with cold air package, decent set of headers(although you'd have to build them to fit the car anyway), good computer tune, then maybe some headwork and some new cams.................then I'd try the supercharger route. You could by a new crate motor and new supercharger for under $13k and be making 600+HP....................and still run on pump gas.....although it would have to be the high priced stuff..................or for you guys back in the Midwest some of the good pump gas. Yes, I'm slowing getting back to kind of normal, but it's killing me not being able to take the Maverick to the track...................the racing season has just started...................so, even if they have to pour me into the seat I'm going when the weather gets a little warmer.
we were just talking about that...motor...the other day. be nice if he would have put it in a street car... glad to see you back...
You know Frank, the more and more I think about engine swaps for the ole Maverick (not my Big Tire car) but a street car that will stay up with the Z06/ZL7/Boss302/Shelby Mustang.................The reason I am going to say what seems like a violation of all my senses is that a friend just picked up a CTS-V with 6spd...............and that little motor is putting out over 550HP....Stock!, and he can break the tires loose in almost every gear...........................I keep thinking about making 600+HP with a motor like yours. They are easy to come by, parts are pretty easy to come by and you pick up almost any car magazine and read how they are producing 600HP naturally aspirated and from there to 1000hp with Superchargers. Would be interesting to take a new Coyote and an LS3 and do the same mods from mild to wild and see where each motor comes out........just be an interesting exercise.
as I know you know, there will have to be more than a motor swap in a Maverick to handle that kind of HP/driving...we ain't talking 1/8 mile. I can blow the tires off with the 5.3 in my car so 200 HP more would be a waist... I know I could do...yada, yada, yada but...ain't. I'm a 0-80 maybe 90 MPH kind of Guy, with a little tire smoke once in a while (all the time)... ......
Everyone has their threshold of being comfortable, and I agree, there just aren't too many places you can really put the pedal to the metal with a 600hp street car, but I've always been with the late "Grumpy Jenkins", and I quote, "You can never have enough HP". I guess every car I've ever had I tried to gain as much as my pocketbook would allow............is that practical, no..................but sure was fun. Kind of like running 6:13 gears on the street.............I could shift through all for gears from stop light to stop light.........that was in my 68 Z28................was a real Hoot!, just me thinking out loud.
was that back when a ...flathead...had 96 HP....... that may apply to a full blown race car... saw one of these bolted on a Vett. yesterday...E-force "Street Legal Supercharger Kit" comes with a 5-year/100,000-mile warranty for 2007-12 models... Summit...$6,999.87 200 HP bolt on... the Coyote came out of a...street car...
Well Frank, I'm not quite that old, but the Ford Flatty had 85hp and the Mercury had 125hp..............but I built the flathead only 8/9 years ago for my 31 Coupe.................spent a lot more money than what the E-Force cost to prove to myself (and other people in the Flatty community) that I could make more than 1HP per cubic inch...........made 315hp from 289ci in the ole flatty, and it was a street motor The $7k for the E-Force works out to $35 per HP, which aint bad today
Grumpy had and also built MANY "toys" for others through the years and I'd certainly say his word.. and advice.. means more than most. I'd speculate that man forgot more than most all here combined will ever learn. As for the "comfort levels"?.. let's keep in mind that size of an engine and boost levels.. and when and where said boost occurs.. makes all the difference in the world for drivability and tractability. Bigger engines are obviously easier to drive than smaller ones.. but FI and computer controls make life MUCH easier. I've ben in and around BB cars that make just north of 700HP and can be pulled down to 800rpm in gear with barely any lope. Also been in and around 1,000HP motors that are pushing through BONE stock transmissions(some even run stock clutches) and rearends. Those big single and twin turbo guys are so fast on the big end they don't give a rats hiney if you blow their doors off for the first 660 feet since they just willingly pedal off the line to keep parts alive anyways. The most amazing thing with turbo cars is the seemingly stock feel at low rpm/low boost levels and it's the massive power swell that gets you grinning. As for "needing to beef up every other component".. absolutely not true unless you plan on going wheels up from every stoplight and Christmas tree. it's that balls to the wall shock load that kills parts.. not xxxx power level. In fact.. I see more and more absolutely BONE stock cars(and trucks) making 500 - 700 horsepower on the streets every single summer. Heck.. you can even chip a new 6 banger Eco-boost F150 for 450hp these days. Welcome to the new ECM and CNC driven millennium. And about that Caddy. I almost bought an '05 V last year but the rear tires were a bit worn and had a slight imbalance in the clutch under initial depression. The price was right(or wrong, depending on overall perspective).. but it had obviously been beaten on a bit too much for my taste, so I passed. ECM controls or not.. life's much tougher on boosted motors and I won't be footing the bill for someone else's previous fun of ownership and taking their sloppy seconds to the shop for repairs. I've been starting to dream of a TT setup on my Comet since I'll need custom headers for my major engine setback plan anyways. That's almost half the battle right there and I'll have plenty of room in such an arrangement. Time and cash will tell where I end up and I really do love me some "angry rpm" smallblocks. Plus.. it's tough to road race boosted setups unless you tune the gears and boost chart for every single track and course. Then there's the class restrictions to deal with too.
The Coyote Powered Maverick is more "Stock" than most of the cars on this board...even yours Frank. With the current 5 speed he has in it that car could be driven Anywhere just by swapping the slicks for street tires.
Yes, the Maverick is running the 'Coyote Stock Class" where the motor is a sealed spec crate motor from Ford.