Head gasket thickness and compression ratio changes

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  1. scooper77515

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    I read somewhere that a .010 difference in head gasket thickness will increase compression ratio by .5:1. Is this true?

    I just swapped out my .055 thick gaskets for .039 thick, for a difference of .016, which should equal out to a .75 increase in my compression.

    Just sounds like a pretty big number considering that it is just a gasket...This would bump me up to 10.25:1 if it is true...
     
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    IIRC, .004" is equal to .1 compression.

    If my memory is correct, then .016" would gain you .4:1 compression.:huh:


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    Or was it .004" is equal to 1cc difference in chamber volume...
    :mad:
    I am confusing myself now!


    If your equation is correct, you gain .8:1 compression.

    If mine is correct, you gain .4:1 compression.

    If .004" is equal to 1 cc compression area, then you lose 4cc and have to figure your compression as before, but 4cc less volume.
     
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    I am pretty sure .004 equals 1cc difference in chamber volume.

    The .041 thick gasket has 9.0 cc, the .039 has 8.5 cc according to descriptions on JEGS website.
     
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    Ran the numbers through my EA...
    -4cc raises the compression almost .4:1.

    That means both my equations came out accurate!
     
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    So I am gaining almost half a point with these gaskets? Closer to 9.9 or 10:1?

    Now you got me confused...:D
     
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    is this .4:1 per cyl. or per gasket (divided by 4)?:huh:

    ...:bouncy:...
     
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    You don't know what you really have unless you measure everything and calculate. Plug in the numbers:
    http://www.fordmuscle.com/calculators/compression.shtml

    The biggest inconsistancies are head chamber volumes and piston-to-deck heights. You have to measure.

    Why on earth would you run .055" head gaskets unless your pistons were sticking .015" out of the holes?
     
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    They were whatever was on there stock. I yanked them off and measured them at .055. New ones will be .039.
     
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    do you know if anything has been cut off the block?
    maybe they decked the block or milled the heads and ran a thicker gasket to keep stock compression or as barry said...are the pistons sticking out of the block...:huh:
    ...and on ...nonadjustable rockers it keeps the valve adjustment correct...

    ...:Handshake...
     
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    Block is a remanufactured long block, pistons are .040 over, there is a slight chance that the block has been decked, just to true it up.

    The pistons are not sticking above the deck, right even or just a little under, barely. Flat-top pistons with valve reliefs.
     
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    I just measured it....012 clearance between top of piston and deck.
     
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    This was just a stock engine, stock heads, and those were crappy mr gasket replacements, I would guess...Not the best in the way of performance...
     
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    I'm thinking on a jasper or such as rebuild line, they make sure they have the clearance with the thicker gasket. What thickness would be on a new stock engine?
     
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    So with the .055" gaskets the squish height was .067 for that cylinder.
    :eek3:I've seen stock engines with as little as .005" piston-to-deck height on one cylinder and .019" on another.
     

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