Hydraulic verses cable clutch

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  1. Dean Deeter

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    I would like some feed back on these two options. Costs, ease of installation, performance, my car is just a
    cruiser. Pictures would be great! IMG_0330.JPG
     
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    Why not use factory zbar? Cables stretch, break or burn. Hydraulic has a lazy return and you scrap the gears if shifting fast
     
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    Mavman72 Gone backwards but lookin' forward

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    With a factory Z bar setup in good condition (Bushings are all good/Z bar not bent/cracked) The factory stuff works very well. Cable set ups can be a bit of a project to adapt to your car. As mentioned the cable will stretch over time and is susceptible to heat damage/fatigue. Hydraulic set ups can be spendy compared to the others and can also require a bit of fabwork (Depending on the type of kit/components you use) as well as having to be spot on with peadal stroke/piston size of master/slave cylender. Internal hyd relese bearings also have to be sized/spaced properly for correct operation. Its' not rocket science but does require a bit more fore thought before spending the cash. Cheap hyd parts tend to be lazy on the engage/disengagement. Then you have to consider exhaust manifolds or headers. Factory setup may not clear some header types...Cable type may have issues as well with the cable running too close to a header pipe or four. Hydraulic set ups can be fairly trouble free in the exhaust clearance department, as hyd lines can readily be routed away from exhaust/heat sources.Soo...They all have their pros/cons. Pedal effort is better (Easier) with hyd setups. Pedal effort is higher with mechanicle linkage/cable set ups. Will you be running a Stock style Borg & Beck (Long style) pressure plate or a diaphragm type??? Competition (Hard clutch friction compounds) clutch disk and heavy (Competition style) pressure plate?? Stock replacement stuff??? How much power/torque do you plan to put through clutch/trans. What kind of trans... For just a cruiser...The stock stuff will be just fine. clears stock exhaust just fine too. Just a few more things to contemplate...Sorry...hope this long winded post helps you some...there are a fair amount of people here running stock/cable and hyd set ups soo...Stay tuned!!!
     
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    I have a hydraulic set up from rosehill performance, easy to install and has been working perfect for a year now... The only mod needed to the car is drill two holes for the master and one hole in the clutch pedal for the rod... My trans is a t5 .
     
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    Any pictures would help..
     
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    The holes that need to be drilled are to hold the master to the fire wall? Or are you using the brake master cylcender?
     
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    Yes two holes to mount the wilwood master.. One hole in clutch arm to mount the rod. This site will not let me post pictures, always says missing token whatever that is...
     

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