If I wanted to POR-15 and paint a body panel, how should I prep

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    Should I sand blast, and if so, what size sand?

    I have a door and fender I need to prep for POR 15 and paint before I install, but want to do it "right" before I start to install it.

    I have sandblasted cars in the past, but used too coarse a sand and pitted the metal. Is there a better way to get down to the metal to prep for POR 15 and paint?
     
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    I would not use Por-15 on the outside of the car...in case that is what you meant.
     
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    I have found hydrocloric acid to be the best method of removing rust, it attacks the rust but only mildly etches metal that is not rusted. The blend I use contains 33% acid. If you try this protect your self (skin, eyes and don't breathe the fumes) and do this in a well ventilated place (outside).
     
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    POR-15, Rust Encapsulator, and Rust Bullet are really made to use right over the rust. Remove the loose rust with a steel brush, cup bursh, etc., clean the surface to degrease, etc., and put on the POR-15.

    I'm presently using Rust Bullet on my '77. It becomes a self-etching primer. You can sand and paint it. However, I would not use it on the outer skins of the car.
     
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    I don't think you can paint over por 15, we tried 2 coats of it on dump truck wheels, and the 2nd coat peeled right off the first coat, the first coat has held for a few years now.
     
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    Suppose I don't use POR 15...what is the "correct" way to get a painted (not necessarily rusted) metal body panel ready for paint.

    The door and fender have no rust, just a few small dings, but before I put them on the car, I want to have it down to metal and POR 15 the insides, and prime and paint the outside. I just don't know the correct way to remove the existing paint and prep the metal for new coatings.

    I will probably paint the entire car one panel at a time, down to metal, prepped, straightened, and prime and paint. then when the whole car is one color (probably an epoxy primer) and straight, I will have it professionally painted (much later down the road) my color of choice. I will POR 15 all hidden parts, inside the metal, and probably the frame rails.
     
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    bring it up scott, i will give you a hand
     
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    If the original factory paint is still decent ... don't remove it ... just sand it down until the factory primer beings to show, seal, prime and paint it ...
     
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    On the fender and door, I am not sure if it is factory paint. I am pretty sure it is not, or at least has had a second coat painted over it.

    I still want to POR 15 the inner surfaces.

    Should i use sand blast or chemicals, or what to strip it to metal?
     
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    I've heard sand-blasting can heat and warp body panels (especially thin-metaled panels, like Mavericks) and excess sand can be hard to remove from crevices, can atrract and hold water, thus leading to future rust. Using a plastic bead, or walnut shell media for blasting might give better results. Chemical stripping works well, but it's messy and toxic. Sometimes good ol' sanding works best.

    As I said, this is what I've heard and read......will find out myself soon enough....when I start on sanding and prepping my 64 Galaxie and the 69.5 Maverick for paint. I'm planning on DA and hand-sanding both cars, since both have original paint, and the old paint is already worn and thin.
     
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    I will have to look into walnut and plastic...

    Sounds kinda expensive... I use walnut and corn husks for cleaning brass bullet casings, and I know how much I spend on those...
     
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    Doesn't POR-15 make a paint that's meant to go over their sealer stuff? I was browsing their catalog a few weeks ago and I swear I saw something. Also, my Maverick is missing the headliner and the metal is pretty rusted. Would prepping it and then coating it in POR-15 be a good idea to help protect it until I can locate or make a headliner? Reading these posts got me to thinking...I was going to just use primer but I think the POR is much tougher.
     
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    What is "sealer"? I look at the store and see lots of primer and paint, plus I have my POR 15, but nothing says "sealer"
     

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