Retaining Z-Bar with late model 5.0

I'm currently considering swapping out my original 72 vintage 302 with a late model 5.0. Since the original Z-Bar linkage seems to be working fine, I would like to retain it.

BUT... The late model blocks do not have the threaded boss in the block for the engine side Z-Bar metal ball pivot. I have seen references to fabricate your own adapter as well as references to companies that sold adapters. Unfortunately, the references were a little dated and I have not found anything current.

The attached picture is about all I have been able to find. It would mount with the bellhousing bolts and presumably locate the ball in the original position.

Anyone that can point me in the right direction would be appreciated.

Also, as an alternative I would appreciate recommendations and would like to hear what experience other members have had with hydraulic conversions.

Thanks

 

That's the adapter that most Mustang vendors sell. Fits just fine and will let you retain your stock z-bar.

CJ Pony, Mustang Plus, Tony Branda, Mustangs Unlimited and possibly AutoKrafters to name a few.

R

Attached pic shows it mounted on a Lakewood type scattershield. The spacers not needed when mounting on a stock aluminum bellhousing.

 

I'm having to use the same adaptor. I don't really like it but what ya gonna do? It does work.

 

I would avoid the juice throwout bearings. I had one in my previous car and absolutely hated it. All that I can compare it to is power vs. manual steering. I like the feel of a mechanical linkage (it gives you more response and personally more feedback) and the hydraulic just felt mushy to me. But ultimately it is what you prefer. Drive a small foreign car with a hydraulic and you will get the idea.

 

Thanks... I understand your point. Hyd seems to be more "on / off" than a progressive feel.

Have you had any experience with a master/slave cylinder setup?

Thanks to all for the info.

 

No, I can't say that I've tried the master slave setup. I had the McLeod hydraulic throwout bearing setup with a Tilton cylinder in my old Mustang.

 

is this something needed to put a 89 5.0 H.o in a 75 merc comet? with power steering

 

I'm using the same adaptor bracket but the flange on my Lakewood bellhousing is 1/2" thinner than on a stock bell so I had to move the pivot ball rearward 1/2".

 

Why move the pivot? See the pic in the previous post. Just add spacers between the adapter and the lakewood bellhousing and you get the same location. It's a very simple fix. Of course what ever works.

R

 

At the time I tried using a spacer but something interferred, might have been a header tube. Just too long ago and the memory ain't what it used to be.

 

The reason for the adapter is because ford eliminated the casting on the block where the pivot used to be installed. Has nothing to do with power steering or not. PS has it's own problems.

RS