toploader i.d.

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  1. John B

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    I looked up the toploader I've bought to use in my Mav on the McKee website. Mine has RUG L2 on the tag. The closest thing I could find was a RUG L. Can anyone tell me what my tranny came out of? Will it be suitable for a souped up Mav? Thanks. John B
     
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    can you post a pic of both sides of the trans?
     
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    Could be that "L" is a "J" ? That would make it a 390 transmission. How long is the pilot bearing snout, forward of the input shaft splines ? If it's a 390 unit, that dimension will be about 5/8"
     
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    FE pilot surface is ~3/4" while the SBF version is ~1 1/16"... or thereabouts.

    DO NOT USE AN FE TOPLOADER ON AN SBF!!!!!:naughty:
    The difference is tiny, but enough to ruin the tranny.


    For MOST uses, the 'wide ratio' toploader is preferred.
    The 'close ratio' is still a good tranny though, just not as versatile in the gearing dept for broad performance use.
     
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    My apologies for not getting back to this thread sooner, but life stuff got in the way.
    Thanks to all that responded.
    Baddad457, you were right in thinking that I'd copied that letter down incorrectly, but it should have been an "E", not a "J".
    So my tranny is in fact a RUG E2, which according to the chart I checked is from a '68 Mustang or Cougar 289 and is a 28 spline wide ratio transmission.
    Is there any reason that this would not be a suitable tranny to put behind my 302?
    By the way, the bellhousing that I got with it is marked C5AA-6394-B. same question here; any reason why this part won't work fine in my Mav? Thanks for any further input from those of you "in the know" about these things. It's sure nice to have somewhere to go to ask these questions.
     

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    They should work fine.
     
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    That is a PERFECT choice for a 302 Maverick/Comet!
    Best tranny (non-OD) that you could have for a street and/or strip Ford.

    Make sure to look up the part number for the bellhousing.
    It should be a 10" clutch/157t flywheel type, but it is possible it is an 11"/164t bell.
    You need to know which it is as most parts do not interchange between 157t and 164t combos.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Btw:
    That is a great shifter, but it's mounting position is not stock.
    If you intend to use it, your hole in the floor will NOT be in the stock position, and if you intend to put a console of some sort in your car, it likely won't fit it either.

    I had that shifter in my Sprint and liked it very much.
     
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    The tailshaft bolt pattern maybe correct, but the shifter definately won't fit the stock floorboard hole (if you have a floor shifter car) That looks like a Hurst Vertigate. A Hurst Competition Plus most definately would work with the correct shifter install kit.
     
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    I bet the casting # on your tail shaft is C4ZR-7A040-A
    from 1964-73 Mustang, Cougar 289, 302, 351 engines
    14" length, 25 or 28 spline
     
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    Here's another pic of that tranny from the other side. According to the shifter handle, it's a Hurst Indy shifter. I'm planning on using a Competition Plus. Thanks again for all input.
     

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