V8 Supercar (spectacular)

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  1. kboldin

    kboldin Alain De Cadenet Has My Job!

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    The old Trans-Am series racing from the 60's and 70's was a lot like this V-8 supercar racing.....it's too bad road course racing isn't as popular here in the U.S. as it was "back in the day" and is now down under.

    I'd much rather watch Mustangs, Camaros and Challengers tearing it up on a challenging road course than the same-o, same-o NASCAR running in circles.

    In fact, GT and Tran-Am type cars are more "Stock" than the actual so-called "Stock Cars" of NASCAR (don't even get me started on how fake and phoney NASCAR cars are!)
     
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    I couldn’t agree more, I love all types and classes of racing, some more than others but for me, the most bang for the buck, is when they take “true production” cars and turn it into racecars. Like the SCCA 60’s – 70’s class 2.0 liter’s or GTC, BTC in Europe and FIA Rally. When you can watch the car you drive on the street go door to door in anger, there’s really nothing else like it!! I think racing has really lost something the further they get away from the cars we drive.
     
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    Cars got faster, it's stupid to use stock cars for these speeds. Safety always has to come first.
     
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    these cars are far from "stock"the only thing the same as our road going version is the body panels, the engines arte mounted further back and they now run a transmission at the rear of the car. the drivers seat is even located further back to even up the balance,much larger brakes etc.etc....but i must say that it is very close racing and awesome to watch. The other class tyhat might interest us guys on this forum is called touring car masters, 60and70s era falcons, mustangs,holden monaros, and even a javelin. I had a gentleman who is the current national champ of group'nc' which cansists of these types of cars looking at my maverick recently and it looks like one of these will be his next venture... so fingers crossed we will see a maverick on the tracks competing soon.
     
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    I think my point and meaning of "Stock" cars was missed.

    Yes, I know these Aussie V-8 supercars are highly modified......but the fact remains, they're based on "stock" versions of the same bodies with the same RWD, V-8 platform available to the public.

    Stock cars have never been "stock"......they were highly modified versions of factory cars who's base configuration, (body, drivetrain) was available to the public......the competition cars were based on and built from the factory versions John Q. could by from the dealership.

    When you went to a NASCAR race in the 60's, 70's, and to a lesser extent, the 80's, the Galaxies, Impalas, Satellites, Monte Carlos and Torinos you saw racing on the track were available at the dealership......the same body styles, number of doors, rear-wheel drive and even equipped with a street tuned version of the very same motors used on that super speedway.

    I had an uncle that fell in love with the looks of a 64 Galaxie he saw racing.....and that same week, went to his local Ford dealership and bought that exact same fastback, 2-door body style, with the exact same solid lifter, dual quad 427 engine and the exact same 4 speed transmission, and the exact same posi rear end that Galaxie used in the stock car race he watched that weekend.

    Even in the 80's, the 2-door, RWD V-8 cars you saw racing, you could buy a factory "stock" version with 2-doors, RWD, and a V-8 at the dealership.

    Nowadays, the factory versions of most of those 2-door, rear-wheel drive, V-8 cars racing in NASCAR don,'t even come in 2-doors, are front-wheel drive and not equipped with any engine or drivetrain EVEN CLOSE to what's used on the track.

    It's not a matter of safety or "they got faster".....it's simply NASCAR quit racing what the factories built, and the factories quit building what NASCAR races.

    That's why I think NASCAR blows, and why I love and respect Trans-Am, GT and SCCA style racing.......now, like back in the day, street versions of the same Camaros, Mustangs, Challengers (and Holdens and Falcons) you see on the track are available to the public on showroom floors.


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