What vehicles have a 351W and AOD ready to swap into my Mav?

It doesn't matter if it is a roller or non block. Would I have to mess with the drive shaft length?

What years and models might have these?

 

was ford still making 351w's when the AOD's were out? they didnt start untill the late 80's right? i would imagine the only thing with both under the hood would be a large truck

 

If you're getting a new motor I'll gladly buy your old 302

 

Ta Da!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AOD_transmission

 

Heres another neat little link http://www.fordclassics.com/enginespecs.html and i belive by 1980 the 351w was making an amazing 153 horsepower to the 302's 140hp.

 

Wikipedia says

And available in several cars 1980-1992. Just need to narrow it down to which car(s) had both. Then find that car in a junk yard.

 

Excerpt from wikipedia: "Introduced in 1969, it was initially rated (SAE gross) at 250 hp (186 kW) with a two-barrel carburetor or 290 hp (216 kW) with a four-barrel. When Ford switched to net power ratings in 1972 it was rated at 153 to 161 hp (114 to 120 kW), although actual, installed horsepower was only fractionally lower than in 1971." found here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_351_Windsor#351W

Should I take this to mean that the 71-72 changes were mostly on paper?

 

Yes. Power was indeed down slightly, but the big change was due to the rating change.

 

351w

F series trucks still had 351Ws into the late eighties, so you ought to be able to find that combo there. The trick to all this is that if you are converting to a carb ( and I hope you are along with a gnarly cam, better heads, etc.) is that the AOD used a TV cable to regulate the upshifts. You need to get an adapter for a carb application. If the TV cable is not adjusted correctly, you can burn up an AOD in no time (like less than 100 miles ... :16suspect ).

Street rod shops and perhaps Edelbrock, Holley, etc might be good places to look for the TV cable adapter.

... and no, ... you won't pick up 600+ HD channels including pay-per-view and HBO ... not that kind of TV cable ...

 

They changed the way they tested the engines for their HP ratings.
The new way made the numbers go lower, without actually changing anything.


As for finding a 351w, they were primarily in cars until the very early 80s, not trucks. As soon as they stopped putting them in cars, they were used in trucks and vans from then on. The change would have taken place when the 351m/400 was discontinued somewhere around 80.

Your best bet to find an AOD in combo with a 351 would be a truck or van.
You definately don't want an AODE.
The problem I see is that a 351 would generally have a C6 until the E4OD came out around 90. I don't know that the AOD was used behind a 351.
It is generally considered a weak tranny. F150s with 302s only used the AOD for a very short time. My 91 has an E4OD behind it.
IMO, if they were putting that monster behind a 302 F150, it just goes to show Ford knew they were substandard.

Not saying I wouldn't trust a built one behind a 351. Just not a stock AOD.

 

I just grabbed a 351W and AOD out of a 82 Crown Vic station wagon. It was a short tailshaft AOD too and a 8.8 rear.

Cleaver

Edit: MANY of the carbed AOD's will have what looks like a regular kick down rod rather than a cable. If you are going to be using a different intake or carb you will have to convert to a cable because the rod is the correct length for factory. Just mentioning this because a lot of folks will look under the hood and see a kick down rod and assume it is a NOT an AOD. Also, many of the early AODs have the word METRIC stamped in the bottom of the pan.

 

Ok Scott i'm curious.Why do you want to swap in a stock 351 and aod into your car?

 

I don't think he will keep it stock. Look for a van/truck or like Cleaver said get an 80's crown vic/country squire wagon.

 

I want a 393 with highway friendly gearing for my 3'80 rear...

Figured it would be easiest to start with a stock 351/AOD combo that came together stock and not have to match a bunch of stuff up, like bolt patterns, etc.

So, no, it would NOT be stock, and the AOD would have to be built fairly strong and get a new converter.

I am leaning more toward a moderately built 351 block rather than a "pushed" 302 block. I would like a nice 400HP +/-, preferably +, and not have to be stressing the engine block.

 

Ok now that makes sense,had me wodering about you for a minute there.I have a few friends with 393's and 408's,torquey little engines.