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Discussion in 'General Maverick/Comet' started by james comet, Aug 17, 2006.

  1. james comet

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    First let me say I have not posted here in a long while do to family circumstances. Everything is fine now so here is my question? Some of you may remember I have 71 comet gt and I am putting a professionally built 408 stroker motor in her with 500 horses and above.

    I have cut the shock towers, welded the plates in and have put on the sub-frame connectors on. Now, someone told me that I should install a mustang 2 front end for strength. I want to know without the stang 2 front end will the car the way it is be able to handle the stress of the motor. Also, what else can I do to beef up the frame? Thank y'all in advance. :clap:

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    Sorry, can't help with front end question. But, will your rear and tranny be able to handle 500+ horses? Not sure what your setup is, but your C4 will need work, and the rear will probably have to be 9". Aftermarket drive shaft?
     
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    front end should be no problem. however make sure you have good shocks and ball joints, etc. what are you using for a rear end, traction bars, tires, shocks, etc.?
     
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    Erick-Mav Maverick Punk

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    I think it would be OK. Make sure you have the V8 cross brace that goes under the engine and a torque limiting strap on the driver's side of the motor. You could also stiffen up the chassis with a roll bar/cage or use motor plates instead of motor mounts. With a 408 you could be in the upper 500HP range and it should have a lot of torque too. Sounds like fun.
     
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    You got a roll cage right?
     
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    i guess a lot depends on what your intended use is. if it's going to see the dragstrip it will need a roll bar, driveshaft loop, 5 point seat belts and other stuff. especially if you run faster than 11.49. you need to get the nhra rulebook if you plan on that. :)
     
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    You COULD do a M II front end but you don't NEED to. Supposedly Ford's shock tower front end is stronger than a M II because it carries the load into the cowl/firewall area, whereas an M II kit carries the load down the thin sheetmetal unibody subframe. We've all seen big hp motors running both setups, either one will do the job for your power level.
     
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    Ok, here's what it has.

    ***It has a ford 9inch, 31 spline rear end. It has a posi with 3:55 gears. The tranny is a baby C-6 with a manual valve body. All the ball joints/shocks/idle arm etc and suspension is new. Manual steering with brand new ssbc brakes to stop this thing. I do plan on using additional braces like a montecarlo bar etc. The car is not going to be a drag racing car per se but rather a street/freeway car. Oh, and I don't have a roll cage as of now. Can you guys think of anything else?

    What kind of tires and size would you use? Thanks again. (y)

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    Mavaholic Growing older but not up!

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    Should be a screamer. The MII would also add disc brakes and rack & pinion steering. Its really not necessary but if you got the bucks its a worth while investment.
     
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    Yeah, right... :cool:

    rear can go 255/60r15 max (at least width-wise) I think that is 26X10.5 on slicks, not that you care, since this is a "street car" :bs:

    Sounds like a great setup, but it will need to be a sturdy car (subframes, etc) and all that. I don't know...will a C6 handle 600hp...anyone?
     
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    Honestly, it's not going to the drag strip and

    ***Honestly, it's not going to the drag strip and I only live 12 miles from the Las Vegas Speedway. If it ever did I would let my mechanic's nephew (a younger guy than me) make a couple of passes. He has a 2000 mustang with twin turbos and runs in the low tens. Btw, where did you all of a sudden come up with 600 hp? :huh: I do have access to a dyno and my mechanic said he will put it on there for free so it should be interesting. Thanks :bananaman

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    I came up with 600hp as you said "500+". I believe that you should build all your other parts to be stronger than your engine. That way, you throw a rod before you blow up a rearend, spin off a driveshaft, or blow up a clutch/tranny.

    Personally, with my 302 (soon to be 347), I will build the rest of my car to handle 500hp, since I know that if I hit 500 with my 302 block (which I do NOT plan on doing, I want to keep it closer to the 400-450 mark), I will split the block. Therefore, I will build the other components so that they will be able to handle whatever the engine can throw at it.

    I figured if you build everything else to handle 50-100 hp more than you think the engine is making, you should be fine (until you hit that 150HP nitrous shot :evilsmile )
     
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    Regardless, it really sounds like you have an interesting project going on... :D
     
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    I would put a Monte Carlo bar and Shock Tower braces on it for ease of handling the 500+ hp's. The car could get away from you really quick!

    It'll stiffen and help support the front end.

    I'm with Erick - you DO have the V8 cross bar, right? Right! ;)

    Check this guy's 427 out (in an engine bay that 'might be' the same size as the Mavericks -
    one of the Legend Members here will hopefully confirm or debunk that information)

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/75943/message/1155778471/A-NSS+TBOLT+FOR+SALE
     
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    man, i wish i only lived 12 miles from lvms. that's a great track. well run and racer friendly. i ran the first big bucks race there, even won some money. and then ran the et finals there the next month. they put on a banquet for the racers that cost about $30k. wow. i'd like to make it there for the thanksgiving 4 day race. $100 entry for sportsman for all 4 days. but the wife and daughter say that thanksgiving is a family tradition at home. oh well. sounds like you're going to have a hauling car. good luck. :)
     

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