That is cool to hear the extra width is outboard. From the pics, it looks a bit like the part of the old steering box that was closest to the header, now has more room too. It may be the camera angle, but with the new box, that part may be a bit lower, if I am looking at it right. How is the clearance with the pitman arm? ... I would imagine it needs to be the same. My header has a nice half-moon where my pitman arm made room for itself.
Is this what you are looking for? sorry the last one I got today is fuzzy I think i got fingerprints on the camera, of course the lighting sucked too and the pics are with a crappy cell phone..
Sorry guys I deleted a post, I know its the weekend so some of you might think its an alcohol induced psychosis....but no I actually deleted a post. Basically im having some problems with my center link adaptor aligning right. I sent an email off to borgeson and hopefully monday or teusday they will get back too me and I will let you guys know whats going on.. Basically i wanted too know if I did something wrong setting it up...
Ok guys I guess you guys probably want an update on whats going on with my steering. Well it turns out I was wrong, I had my center link adaptor setup exactly as I should and everything was in proper alignment. But knowing this I had a box show up on my doorstep on wed.. (my birthday ironically) and here is what it contained(sorry for the dark picture guys) my 2 weeks of waiting were finally over...(1 week too ship my unit too them 1 week for them to ship this one back) Yup you guys are seeing it correctly.. its a new steering box Turns out Borgeson had a quality escape (thats what we tell our customers when someone screws up and we have to recall some of our parts). But anyways what my problem was is my turning radius went too crap from the stock steering. I would have to make a 3 point turn just too pull into a parking spot at walmart. Driving the car on the road was awesome, the car tracked well, the bumpsteer went away it was a solid ride...so my assumption was that i screwed up and set the centerlink up wrong. So I contacted Borgeson and they told me they had a few units built with the wrong steering ratio(Flynbrd PM me and I will send you the stuff that borgeson sent me to tell if mine was bad.)... I dont know but honestly I think I was more shocked that I didnt screw up. I will say this Borgeson has been really good about the whole deal. I mean i am not super happy about having too pull a new steering box out because it was the wrong one. And having my daily driver down for two weeks.. But they have been really easy too work with, as soon as they verified I had the wrong box they got shipping labels too me and got everything taken care of without any hastle... hmm maybe I can get them too send me a discount coupon so when I buy all the stuff for my CJ or maybe a couple of T-shirts or something for my troubles. But yeah I cant complain about their customer service, they put up with one or two vague and somewhat retarded emails from me. But in doing it this time around this is what I learned... The biggest thing I learned is you can pull it all out through the top. Now the first time I did it I came up throught the bottom, but I did it that way because I was pulling the headder off anyways. But seriously, I got a pitman arm puller and pulled the pitman arm off, unbolted the master cylinder and steering column and pulled it straight out the top. I could have probably saved myself about 6-8 hours worth of work if I had done it this way the first time...stupid headder... But I got it in last night and ran it around for a little bit and boy oh boy does it turn allot sharper at slow speeds. I dont notice any difference while on the highway but yeah I can actually turn into a stall again. But I got all my power steering lines made and in, and I will get you guys some more pics as soon as I can. I got lucky enough too get pulled into work for some overtime again today and since I got the car up and running in the dark I didnt want to do too much with it. But honestly everyone I was so excited about having the car back together I was fortunite enough too learn something else. I found out if you leave all the wires off the drivers side engine bank that the engine will still run as a 4 cylinderMan oh man I am getting allot of good knowledge with this steering project... Yeah I know I know me and those stupid plug wires huh, thats the second time during this steering I have had a duh moment with them... Ok ok I have an excuse this time I took them off two weeks ago so they werent in my way so I could pull the steering box and hoses out and it was dark in my carport when I finally got everything back together, who would of thought blue wires blend in with a blue engine and blue air cleaner... But in the end I atleast got my power steering flushed out and checked for leaks and I got too drive my car around a little bit.
Thanks for all the info and updates on the steering upgrade. It's gud to know the install goes easier pulling everything thru the top. I wud assume pulling the hood, mc and tower brace wud be a priority, makin the job easier. Was the physical size of the new box the same as the original box? I don't recall if u used the GM style ps pump they sell? Sorry u had to redo the install and the problems u had w/ steering ratio. I am still looking into getting the setup for my car. The installion part is what has probably held me back rather than the cost. My car steers pretty gud w/ the orig stuff unless it gets real windy and then it's keep it below 65 and hang on to that wheel. BTW: Can't make out anything on that last pic of the new box.
I actually left the hood on when I did it, it really wasn't a problem leaving it on there. The steering box only weighs about 25lbs so its not too hard too lift out (verified by the UPS scales when I sent the original box back). But yes I did have to take the shock tower brace off of that side. And no I am not using their power steering pump. I have a serpentine setup from a 88 Tbird on my car so I am using the newer ford power steering setup. Of course in doing so I did have to have a new pressure side hose made because the one that came with the kit was about 3" too short too work with the adaptor I bought. It really is a shame because the Borgeson hoses that come with the kit are actually really nice gates hoses.
I did this setup on mine. Love it. Your pictures were a godsend. BTW. How much did you have to cut the steering column. If I remember correctly I did between 2 3/4 to 3 inches....
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I screwed up and did about 3 1/2 inches it was too much unfortunately. I cut about a half inch too much off.
I recently did this install. I have to get back to it, mine feels way to stiff. It's very difficult to make a turn one handed, it's had an alignment, fresh fluid, air is out of the system, went from the factory p/s pump to their Saginaw pump, no change. And due to having a power brake booster I was unable to utilize the wrag joint therefore I had to get a u-joint to attach to the steering box. I'm thinking maybe there's something bad in the steering column if that's not the case the only other thing I can think of would be a defective box. Needless to say this conversion has been a pain in the butt and costed more than it should have.
it sounds to me like Maverick73 has some problems with the geometry in his steering column especially if he is using a U-joint on the steering shaft. My 6 year old daughter can easily turn my steering wheel with one hand. I would be more inclined to believe that his system is binding at the U-joint then anything, im just wondering why he would not have just switched over to a hydraulic power brake setup instead of messing around and home engineering something with the steering column to get around a vacuum booster.
