Project "Therapy Sessions" 1972 Maverick

Discussion in 'Maverick/Comet Projects' started by car-nut, Jul 25, 2010.

  1. car-nut

    car-nut Glenn

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    In the end that is all I am trying to build, a nice driver. None of my cars are trailer queens or Show rigs. I view chips as a badge of honor, because I drive them. But, if I can try and limit them by using the ceramic clear down low I will do my best.

    This car is being built for my daughter. She is 14 now, so my hopes are to finish it, show and drive it for a little while and then hand the keys over to her. I look forward to having her drive it into a show/cruise behind me in my 55 Chevy.
     
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    Smart move. Get thru the gates before the mob surrounds the Maverick and congests the entry. Your 55 is nice but the Maverick draws a crowd. LOL
     
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    Looks very very nice Glen. Great layout and nice consistent metalflake dispersion. As a fellow life-long painter it is tough to describe to others the feeling that you get when all the tape and paper comes off. "Artistically satisfying" really doesn't even come close to describing it. And it get's even better when a customer sees it for the first time! With an angular light refraction combined with the high metal flake content of the stripes themselves.. should give a tad subtler ghost stripe effect.

    Not trying to diss this product or anything like that but I have a few questions. I've used these products before and believe I may even still have some clear sitting in my fire-cabinet. Has PPG reformulated this from the original OEM design? And what about touch-ups or panel blending?.. same product? If you don't want to clutter the thread up with product and application specifics?.. maybe I should PM you?

    To all the others asking or commenting about this type of finish being produced "out of the gun". While premium products surely help final result and productivity, especially with higher metal-flake content,.. this is far more the result of a skilled spray tech' matching the reducer evaporation rate(flash speed) to mil thickness application per coat based on airflow and booth temperature. Not to take away from the PPG stuff that Glen makes his living off.. just to point out that there is much more to producing this level of finish than just the product being used. Premium products + skilled tech + good equipment = THIS. Playing it safer with slower reducer rates and fewer/thinner MIL coats usually equates to more orange-peel.

    Also keep in mind that you would never want to use these types of harder coatings as added protection across banded portions of a panel like you would apply the polymer scratch guard type films. This is because it becomes very tough to do correction work where it meets another coating having a softer composition. Best to do complete full panels "seam to seam" so similar grits/compounds and correction protocols could be maintained from color touch up/clear correction to final polish. Not trying to step on any toes.. just trying to help others to avoid confusion of the whyfor's, how's, and where's, is all.
     
  4. RMiller

    RMiller My name is Rick

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    I would have to agree, I used the good stuff on my first paint job and it still looked like an amateur did it!:biglaugh:

    There is a lot of refined skills involved when it comes to a nice paint job, skills I don't have but I'm going to have a go at it anyway. I have a lot of respect for you guys that can lay down a nice paint job.
     
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    There are a few tricks involved to laying out a nice gun finish. PM me whenever you get closer to paint and I would be happy to give you some simple and helpful tips.
     
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    car-nut Glenn

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    I will assume here you are talking about the ceramic clear here? If so, I can't tell you for certain one way or another whether this is reformulated from what is used by Mercedes or not. I just don't know one way or another. I do know that this product is used for Mercedes Certified Warranty repairs, so I don't know if that is the answer you are looking for, but thats all I know for sure. As for "touch ups or Panel Blending" I will assume you are talking about Open Blends and not full panel clearing? If so, then no, that would not be recommended. But then again, PPG has never, ever stated that doing an open blend is acceptable. Is it done all over the place, sure is. But as I am sure you know, there is no good way to get a thermo set product to "blend" into a cured thermo set product. Eventually they all fail, and PPG will never endorse such a process.

    As to the other comments about the clear being done "out of the gun". I appreciate everyones comments and interest. As stated the average person who only paints once in a while could never get that level of finish out of the gun. It does take years of developed skill and product knowledge and product selection to attain that. I have seen great painters, that select the wrong products not be able to do it because they choose incompatible products to get that finish. meaning, too fast of a reducer, and fast hardener etc etc. I am a believer in slower is better, always.

    The basecoat on this car is being done in water base, as is the stripe color. The clear is a standard Urethane clear. The lower valance and spoiler being done in Ceramic, but the rest of the car will be done in D8152 Glamour clear.
     
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    RMiller My name is Rick

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    Thanks, I appreciate it!
     
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    car-nut Glenn

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    I got a few more parts in color......


    The hood with sealer on it.....
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    The hood all based out......


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    With matte clear on it.....

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    And now with the bottom all masked off, the topside gets sealer as does the trunk lid.......

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    And base coat......

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    And now the shiny stuff.... this is all "out of the gun" so excuse any orange peel. This will all get sanded down at a later date and have the stripe color sprayed then get another round of clear.

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    damn that looks really nice
     
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    car-nut Glenn

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    And that was right about the time I lost my mind. Everyone kept posting pictures of the new repo steel Grabber hood. Sooooo, I ordered one. I had to see for myself how good it was. I have to say I am really impressed. Each front corner has a slight bend to them, but a quick hammer and dolly will cure that. Also the rear eade along the cowl has a flat spot in the center, maybe six inches long. Nothing I can't tweak easily.

    So I am going to fix these couple spots and then prime the hood and paint it. I think I will sell off the Maverick Man hood and keep the steel one. I hate to say that with the time and effort I have already into the MM hood, but I really like the look of the steel one, and the overall lines and having a steel hood it will keep its shape. 'glass body parts out in the sun will move around and after all this blocking and sanding that will drive me nuts. Please don't take this as a knock on his parts, I am just extremely fussy, and maybe a little bit nuts. Ok, maybe seriously nuts.

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    yep.. completely certifiable if you ask me. Looks nice!
     
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    car-nut Glenn

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    Ok, so cancel that idea with the new repo hood. I spent a few hours fitting it up today, and while I am super impressed with the hood overall. It will take too much to get it to fit as well as the Maverick Man's hood that I have already spent so much time perfecting its fit as I wanted. The experiment was worth it, and had I started with that I would use it instead. But I want to move forward with the painting process and not go backwards.

    Did you just get a case of whiplash?! Lol........
     
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    I missed the fact that you ended up putting the carbon fiber trunk with spoiler on it, after all the hard work to make the other one what made you change your mind ? So now you will have an extra hood and trunk lid with rear spoiler for your next build ha ha

    It would be really nice to see this car in a mag as a feature
     
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    car-nut Glenn

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    A magazine feature would be very cool, but I'm not sure what mag would do it these days based on the type of car it is.

    I'm going to sell this steel hood, and I still have the other deck lid and spoiler set, but I really liked the MM lid with the integrated spoiler. I can't wait to get all the parts painted so I stop changing my mind on things, it gets very expensive!
     
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    Just read through all of this. You do amazing work.
     
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