Dexron III or type F in rebuilt C4?

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  1. NWMO_Maverick

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    Hey all,

    The title pretty much covers it. The shop said we could use Dexron III if desired. Easier to find and cheaper. They did say the type F would shift firmer and is often preferred.

    Mild shift kit, etc.

    Unfortunately my son is leaning towards selling, I’m hoping the rebuilt transmission causes him to rethink it.

    Chris
     
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    I would have no problem using DEXIII or VI, it would certanly be better then F
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    Dexron III will work for the new style clutches, ran it in all my rebuilds.
     
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    The friction coefficient is different for F, gives somewhat firmer shifts. Back in day, GM guys often used it in Turbo 350 & 400. Then B&M copied the properties and sold it as Trick Shift.

    Some years back I used F in a slipping '93 Grand Marquis AOD. Along with a B&M electronic shift improver got another 98K mile out of that transmission(died at 131K from a blown pump to case gasket). Also I had a slippy A4LD in a Aerostar, with F was still shifting OK at over 150K miles. Most A4LD were dead by 90- 110K mi.

    F should be changed at approx 25K mi intervals.
     
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    Yep back in the day F was the stuff. For max performance race now, we exclusively use Tractor Supply's Traveller Premium Universal Tran/Hydraulic Fluid. Great stuff, holds up to high temperatures extremely well and extends the life between rebuilds. Shifts very firm and it's only like $40 for a five gallon bucket.
     
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    On your recommendation I’m going to buy a bucket of TSC’s hydraulic fluid and give it a shot in everything I’ve previously used automatic transmission fluid in (eg snow plow pump, transfer case, and manual transmission’s).
     
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    I don't have any idea where to find the information now, but years ago I read about the difference between Type F and Dexron. Evidently Type F was designed to slip less as clutch pressure, helping the clutches lock up. Dexron was made to become more slippery under pressure, giving smoother shifts.
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    I think it also has something to do with the ...clutch material...being different in the newer rebuilt transmissions
     
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    I drag raced a '88 T-Bird with stock(does have shift kit) AOD for 10 seasons, used F with no issue.

    Finally blew the 5.0, transmission is still fine.
     

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