Yep. Also seen that on other brands too with all these cookie cutter designs. The old blackjacks were all over the place too.. some guys would say they're great.. and others not so much. I just reread all this and have to say.. sorry to be so long winded here guys. When I'm not working hard enough.. I talk too much. lol Has anyone ever seen a custom up-swept header design for these cars? Not like the out of hood zoomie/demo-derby type stuff.. but maybe even something similarly built for a turbo/twin turbo setup? Not really interested in log style manifolds though. I have to wonder if I could package an up-swept style header and just bend down once it's all collected up and have only one main exhaust tube to deal with here. Could also end up with EL cutouts/dumps righ behind the front wheels too. Loud.. but cooler sounding. lol Probably need to go pretty far forward and down with the secondary(collector) though just to get long enough primaries on this thing. Don't like the fact that the weight will sit higher and more forward though.. but maybe someone else would buy them later on just for the novelty of the design. Would need to be heat wrapped for sure with such a design.. and stainless would probably become mandatory to help them live a long enough life if they were fully wrapped. But at least that way I can gain more clearance away from the shock towers and possibly allow the engine to sit deeper to help offset some of the added top heaviness. Would definitely draw extra attention when the hood was popped open.