car went into the shop today for the AOD install...08/21/06 :thumbsup:
i will get some pics. tomorrow...and a parts list...:yup:

...the parts i will be using will be...new...used and/or rebuilt...:yup:


this threads main objective is to inform all as to how and what i did to install an AOD into a mav. with a 302 motor...and a list of parts i used.


...frank...:bouncy:

Sounds good... Ill move it to the special topics section once its done. If the thread gets messy, ill clean it up for you.

If the thread gets messy, ill clean it up for you.
with Frank...it will get messy :D

Frank, you could be a little more clear on what the topic of this thread is supposed to be?:rolleyes:

I look forward to reading your posts. I plan an AOD swap into my '77. I await your results with anticipation.:clap:

Frank's Real Good Friend Terry:Handshake

Man, I coulda', shoulda' woulda'!

(Damn, this thread is off topic already) :biglaugh:

Went by the shop today...all is going well.

he took an empty aod case and put the tailshaft and pan on it and used it to mock up the install.
had to drop pass. header to get it up to be bolted on. we put the header back on and tomorrow we will take out the aod with it on to see if anything needs to be changed.
got the trans. mount mod. done and will install it also.
got the trans. lines cut and doing the flars in the morning.
the driveshaft is not stock so i am going to get another one that is and see if it fits.
the aod i am using is 1/4th in. longer than the c4.
we hooked up the ...floor shifter...and it will work :thumbsup:

got some pics. and will post them later...frank...:bouncy:

Interested to see how the floor shifter worked. I wonder if the car your tranny came out of has a different linkage than the mustang AODs do. Look forward to the pics. My stock driveshaft fits fine with the aod in my car. Did your headers touch the tranny pan? I had to take my pass. side header off also to the aod in but with it bolted up and the header back in, both header flanges touch the seam between the pan and the tranny. I have Hedman headers, yours may be different.

Interested to see how the floor shifter worked. I wonder if the car your tranny came out of has a different linkage than the mustang AODs do. Look forward to the pics.

He said his AOD is out of a truck. I'd bet the shift arm is no where near the same as a Mustang.

Frank, I have a few stock driveshafts laying around if you need one to use as a test fit. May be more of a PITA to get it down there then it's worth though.

Went by the shop today...all is going well.

he took an empty aod case and put the tailshaft and pan on it and used it to mock up the install.
had to drop pass. header to get it up to be bolted on. we put the header back on and tomorrow we will take out the aod with it on to see if anything needs to be changed.
got the trans. mount mod. done and will install it also.
got the trans. lines cut and doing the flars in the morning.
the driveshaft is not stock so i am going to get another one that is and see if it fits.
the aod i am using is 1/4th in. longer than the c4.
we hooked up the ...floor shifter...and it will work :thumbsup:

got some pics. and will post them later...frank...:bouncy:
Hey frank, I waited all night for them pics http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_8_12v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk788YYUS) . I guess you ment later than I thought...:D
I guess I missed where you mentioned what the trans came out of, Jamie said a truck. Which truck and year and what was the deciding factor(s) for your choice?
So 1/4 in longer trans makes a difference in drive shaft choice? If so, I did'nt know that. I thought the part that goes unto the out put shaft was short/long enough to handle slight changes in lengths. If not I guess the yokes on me,LOL... Hope you get it with minimal troubles:cool:

I guess I missed where you mentioned what the trans came out of, Jamie said a truck. Which truck and year and what was the deciding factor(s) for your choice?

My bad, I was thinking of this thread (http://mmb.maverick.to/showthread.php?t=25929). For some reason my mind didn't make the connection that this wasn't the same thread. :slap:

this threads main objective is to inform all as to how and what i did to install an AOD into a mav

Pay some one else to do it? :D :biglaugh:

Pay some one else to do it? :D :biglaugh:

"you bet ya'" $250 for all parts including trans.
$250 labor for install "you bet ya'" :D
sold the c4 before i (they) pulled it...

Hey frank, I waited all night for them pics http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_8_12v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk788YYUS) . I guess you ment later than I thought...:D
I guess I missed where you mentioned what the trans came out of, Jamie said a truck. Which truck and year and what was the deciding factor(s) for your choice?
So 1/4 in longer trans makes a difference in drive shaft choice? If so, I did'nt know that. I thought the part that goes unto the out put shaft was short/long enough to handle slight changes in lengths. If not I guess the yokes on me,LOL... Hope you get it with minimal troubles:cool:

sorry about causing you to loose the sleep :slap: .
the deciding factor...
this AOD came out of an eighty year old mans truck he bought new...
kind of like the ..."little ol' lady" car...this is the "little ol' man" truck :D .
the 1/4th in. doesn't make a diff. it is my driveshaft is custom and it was longer than a stock...:bouncy: ...

That Phil Collins' song that says, "I Can't Dance" was about Frank.:rolleyes:

Glad this thread isn't getting messy. :biglaugh:

Frank, or anyone else for that matter, do the AOD's differ in the trucks from year to year. My father-in-law has a '90 Van with 302/AOD combo. He said he'd sell it to me cheap for the motor and trans. I didn't know if the combo would fit. Guess I'll have to watch this thread for results......

Luke

we (they) got the aod in and bolted up.:thumbsup:
trans. lines reflared and installed:thumbsup:
they got the ...stock floor shift linkage...bent and installed. it shifts with the detents on the shifter..:thumbsup:
taking my ...driveshaft in and getting it shortened 1"... it will work like it is but he said 1" cut off would make him happier...:thumbsup:
...:bouncy: ...

You're going to post the pics when?

When is later? I hope your definition of later is not proportionate to my wife's idea of 5 minutes.:16suspect

the parts/mods. for my AOD install /conversion...

i used... the Lokar throttle cable..(BOLT ON)

i used the stock floor shifter and rod...bent rod to fit.. (MOD)

i used the stock trans. mount...moved it back 2".. (MOD)

i used the... Lokar tv cable..(BOLT ON)

i used my satock driveshaft...(bolt on)
i used my ...starter..(BOLT ON)

i used the...OEM-E0AZ-6375-A flexplate..(BOLT ON)

i used the AOD sheetmetal motor plate..(BOLT ON)

i have 6901 headers...i had my muffler guy heat the tubes on the pass. header and bend the collector to the outside about one and a half inches..(MOD) this was to clear the AOD pan.

i used the AOD mounting bolts, they are longer than the C4..(BOLT ON)

...:bouncy: ...Attached Thumbnails
http://mmb.maverick.to/attachment.php?attachmentid=17330&stc=1&thumb=1 (http://mmb.maverick.to/attachment.php?attachmentid=17330) http://mmb.maverick.to/attachment.php?attachmentid=17331&stc=1&thumb=1 (http://mmb.maverick.to/attachment.php?attachmentid=17331)

Too Cheap To Buy Film

:slap: :huh:

let me ask this question....

what would everyone like to see pics. of ??? :huh:

i used a stock '84 truck AOD...flipped the shift lever 180 degrees
i used the stock floor shifter and rod...bent rod to fit
i used the stock trans. mount...moved it back 2"
i used the stock aod tv rod...bent to fit
i used my driveshaft...cut off 1"
i used 2 tanks of gas...driving back and forth watching this being done.:D

are you getting the picture ? :huh: :D

...:bouncy: ...

:rant2::badwords: But, you promised. :rant2: :what::cussing:

Nevermind.:whistle:

http://www.beloit.edu/%7Elibhome/AV/Grafix/unhappyphone.JPG

"one ringy-dingy, two ringy-dingy..."

I nominate this top thread of August 06. I think this is all such good info for so many,
Thanks
Dan
ps the more pics the betterer

im really starting to like the idea of AOD , i think the next mav i get it , i will put an AOD , help it to be a crusier:drive:

Too Cheap To Buy Film
Film?? can you still buy film?? :)

Film?? can you still buy film?? :)

Heck, my grandpa still has a working Polaroid camera. Don't know where the heck he finds film for that thing. :)

So the stock shift lever can be rotated 180 degrees hugh? sweet. Do you have to take out the whole thing from the inside or can it be done externally? I need to get back to my swap. Car has been on jackstands for 3 weeks. Been too busy and low on money.

So the stock shift lever can be rotated 180 degrees hugh? sweet. Do you have to take out the whole thing from the inside or can it be done externally? I need to get back to my swap. Car has been on jackstands for 3 weeks. Been too busy and low on money.

Most auto transmissions I have messed with, rotating the arm is fairly easy by removeing the nut that holds it on and simply flipping it over. The have like little notches on either side.

what would everyone like to see pics. of ??? Sara Evans, Shania Twain, Lara San Giacomo, Oh wait, were talking cars, right?

So the stock shift lever can be rotated 180 degrees hugh? sweet. Do you have to take out the whole thing from the inside or can it be done externally? I need to get back to my swap. Car has been on jackstands for 3 weeks. Been too busy and low on money.

Ryan,
the "shift lever" i am talking about here is the one on the AOD .
the one on the "floor shifter" i removed and heated/reshaped to hook up to the trans. but yes it did come out 180 degrees from what it was stock also.:thumbsup:
...:bouncy: ...

did i mention i :drive: the car yesterday :bananaman :dance: .

i went by the shop and he wanted me to :drive: it so he could set the "tv rod".
after a few attempts at setting it, he was not happy with the way it shifted. the hookup on the holley carb left it too sloppy....i am going to Summit today and get the Lokar tv cable and carb bracket. they have one for the holley/aod combo.:thumbsup:
...will keep ya'll posted as it happens...
...one happy camper...frank...:bouncy:

Awesome news. I will play with my shifter tomorrow and see if I can duplicate what you did. If I can get that set up to work that saves a couple hundred bucks I thought I was going to have to spend on a shifter. Then all I have to do is finish my crossmember and bend or cut my headers away from the tranny pan :banghead: :banghead:

Frank , do you realize all of us are riding with you when you test drive it?? Glad you are payin for the gas!!!!!!!!!!!
Dan

...after i got to Summit i saw that Lokar makes a throttle cable that will work on my setup also :thumbsup:. i say "will" work...will know monday.
i was told today that..stephen moore...has one on his car...maybe he will confirm this for me :huh: .

Ryan,
shoot me a p.m....i have an idea about your ...headers... :shhh: just don't tell anyone.:whistle:
...:bouncy: ...

Ryan,
shoot me a p.m....i have an idea about your ...headers... :shhh: just don't tell anyone.:whistle:
...:bouncy: ...

Ooh, ooh!!! I know! I know! I'll tell it!:evilsmile

The Lokar throttle cables use a Clevis type end on the pedal side. Ford apparently used 2 type of throttle pedals in the Maverick. One uses a loop connector with a pin and the other has a ball on the end. If you have the loop type it should be easier to hook up.
Not sure if it was a US vs Canadian build thing or what :huh:
An adapter will need to made to fit the ball type.



...after i got to Summit i saw that Lokar makes a throttle cable that will work on my setup also :thumbsup:. i say "will" work...will know monday.
i was told today that..stephen moore...has one on his car...maybe he will confirm this for me :huh: .

Ryan,
shoot me a p.m....i have an idea about your ...headers... :shhh: just don't tell anyone.:whistle:
...:bouncy: ...

The Lokar throttle cables use a Clevis type end on the pedal side. .

...this cable has both :yup: ...a clevis and a ball :thumbsup:
....:bouncy: ...

Must be new the ones I saw are like this

http://www.lokar.com/interior_pages/products/throttlecables_kd/images/tc_hitech.jpg

Must be new the ones I saw are like this

http://www.lokar.com/interior_pages/products/throttlecables_kd/images/tc_hitech.jpg

LOK-TC-1000U
that's it...the ball is what holes the clevis on...:yup:
when i first saw it i was wondering how i was going to hook it up :huh:
after getting it home i took it apart and found the ball :thumbsup:
...:bouncy: ...

Cool, that should really show that.

got my ... Lokar throttle cable/ carb. bracket... hooked up :thumbsup:
got my ...Lokar tv cable...hooked up :thumbsup:
it was late when we finished so i will go by in the morning and see if we can get the tv cable set.:yup:

here are pics. of the mods. i did to the cross member and rebending of the shifter linkage.:thumbsup:

Frank,,,you da man!!!
Dan

Looking good Frank!!

Cool... I guess I don't understand the mods to the cross member, or how it is going to fit now?

Cool... I guess I don't understand the mods to the cross member, or how it is going to fit now?

i will 'splain all this when i do the final write up. as of now this is what i am doing as i go. if you look back through the thread i have change thing i did to start with because as i went along they proved not to be the best way for me...
..."patients Grasshopper"...
...frank...:bouncy:

This is all great, I'm going to get my AOD today, so now I know who to bug with questions!!:rolleyes:

i used 2 tanks of gas...driving back and forth watching this being done.:D

How could you afford such an expensive modification to your Maverick?:rolleyes:

i :drive: the car home today...:bananaman
i like it but i think i need more rear gear . i have a 3.00 in it now maybe go back to the 3.55 i had before...:thumbsup:
comming down the interstate at 65 i was turning 1200 RPM in OD :yup: a little slow to respond.
my cam is 1500 to 5500
i am going to drive it a few days to make sure all is good and then run it back by and get it checked out. after that i will do the write up.:thumbsup:

they are comming to put the floor down in my new shop so i will have it on my new lift when i take the pics. :yippee: ...frank...:bouncy:

Way to go my friend, Frank! :thumbsup:

1200 rpm, :eek: Heck, you're lucky you didnt' have to stop and drain some of the fuel out of your tank! :biglaugh:

I think your move 3.55 gear swap is a great move too. Sounds like another great "how to get someone else to" article in the making! :bouncy:

"updated post # 20" hope for the last time...:yup:

now to write this up and post it...WHERE? :huh:

...frank...:bouncy:

Be careful when you ask, "Where do you want me to put it?" Some smart-alecky type might tell ya, but I'm not thay type. After all, you're my best good friend.

still waiting for the write-up.:hmmm:

still waiting for the write-up.:hmmm:

pg#2...post #20 pretty well tells the story...:thumbsup:
...frank...:D

was refering to post #48 and #53. the mod to the crossmember. it looks like he made the mounting holes longer but was unsure.

Be careful using the OD in that AOD! They are very weak and when they go so goes the tranny. The one I had did ok for three years but I unly used it down hills and flat cruise above 65mph. My son burnt his up (three times) using it to go up hill at freeway (plus) speeds. All it took was a 240 mile run on the freeway for the first two and 85 miles on the third tranny.
To be totally honest he might not have adjusted the TP cable on the third one. It doesn't take much to burn them up.

"Be careful using the OD in that AOD" ...:bs:

how many millions of AODs have they used over the years. :huh:
i have never seen a warning sticker that states..."use going down hill only"...:D :biglaugh: :clap:
sounds like ...lack of proper cable adj. to me...:yup:
sorry...but i ran mine 80+ MPH to ky. 2 weekends in a row...in OD...( and might have gone up hill a time or two) ..." i love my AOD"...!!!
...Frank...

was refering to post #48 and #53. the mod to the crossmember. it looks like he made the mounting holes longer but was unsure.

http://mmb.maverick.to/attachment.php?attachmentid=17331
we put a piece of pipe in between the mounting ears and then ran a longer bolt through the frame and then through the cross member...
...frank...:bouncy:

thank you i see it now. was looking at the trans mount holes and didn't look at the mounting brakets. but again thank you.

"Be careful using the OD in that AOD" ...:bs:

how many millions of AODs have they used over the years. :huh:
i have never seen a warning sticker that states..."use going down hill only"...:D :biglaugh: :clap:
sounds like ...lack of proper cable adj. to me...:yup:
sorry...but i ran mine 80+ MPH to ky. 2 weekends in a row...in OD...( and might have gone up hill a time or two) ..." i love my AOD"...!!!
...Frank...

Hey Frank,
The BS all depends on the kind of loads you're under! come on over th this side of the country where you have steep 3000 foot climbs to get over the passes in the Cascade mountains and 6-10000 foot passes in the Rockies. If you use the overdrive when you load it like that you won't be laughing. The world looks pretty flat on that side of the USA - c'mon over and play in the real mountains. 80 mph on the flat is nothing, a VW van can do that.

Hey Frank,
The BS all depends on the kind of loads you're under! come on over th this side of the country where you have steep 3000 foot climbs to get over the passes in the Cascade mountains and 6-10000 foot passes in the Rockies. If you use the overdrive when you load it like that you won't be laughing. The world looks pretty flat on that side of the USA - c'mon over and play in the real mountains. 80 mph on the flat is nothing, a VW van can do that.

from reading this i guess ...the AOD is just an ..."Option" you could only get in a ...Ga.-Fla. car. :rl:

if "adjusted correctly" doesn't the OD drop out when the motor loads up...(as pulling a "3000 foot climb") :huh:
No Mustangs or Crown Vics. "UP" there where you live?:huh: still :bs:

"Ilove my A.O.D."!!!
...frank...:bouncy:

The AOD will shift in and out of AOD as the load and terrain changes. If adjusted properly. As far as an OD not liking mountains, my 86 B2 went very well across I-70 many times and never had a problem climbing up Mt. Evans and Pikes Peak to 14,000+ elv. I-90 doesn't get over 4500' on a good day. Try leaving in Leadville Co. at 10,000 elv and tell me how a AOD doesn't like it. Good work on the AOD 71Gold.

Here is another strong AOD:
http://mmb.maverick.to/showthread.php?t=30068&page=2

and why would I think that a C4 would be a better tranny than the AOD?
Because it is?
Paul