Roger's Idiot thread for a 302/C4 into a '70

Discussion in 'General Maverick/Comet' started by smegnl, Sep 18, 2019.

  1. BBMS18

    BBMS18 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2018
    Messages:
    890
    Likes Received:
    527
    Trophy Points:
    236
    Location:
    Grand Rapids, Michigan
    Vehicle:
    75 Comet
    56B2C65A-8928-458E-993D-7F71033C5D73.jpeg
    Wiring schematic and into found here.
    http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/jonknapek/fordv8/duraspark.html
     
  2. smegnl

    smegnl Roger Saffle Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2010
    Messages:
    2,324
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Location:
    Wadsworth, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    1970 Grabber Clone
    BBMS18 likes this.
  3. smegnl

    smegnl Roger Saffle Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2010
    Messages:
    2,324
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Location:
    Wadsworth, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    1970 Grabber Clone
    From reading the site it looks like I can use the same wire that was going to my old ignition coil on the i6. What I dont get is the white wire going to the module. Something about a wore that tells the module its cranking to reduce load to the starter. I assume this is active once the key is fully turned into start/crack position. Anyone know where to find that wire on car?
     
  4. smegnl

    smegnl Roger Saffle Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2010
    Messages:
    2,324
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Location:
    Wadsworth, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    1970 Grabber Clone
    From another thread it seems I need a "drop down bracket" for the Power Steering since I am going to use Hooker 6901 long tube headers. Again, not to sound dumb, but this bracket drops what down and does anyone have a part number?
     
  5. mojo

    mojo "Everett"- Senior Citizen Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2009
    Messages:
    5,250
    Likes Received:
    818
    Trophy Points:
    498
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Chicago
    Vehicle:
    73 Comet GT-302 4bl
    I believe Autokrafters has the drop bracket. Bracket drops steering ram below header attached point to frame clearing header tubes.
     
  6. smegnl

    smegnl Roger Saffle Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2010
    Messages:
    2,324
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Location:
    Wadsworth, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    1970 Grabber Clone
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2019
  7. William623

    William623 Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2013
    Messages:
    1,856
    Likes Received:
    656
    Trophy Points:
    296
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Orlando
    Vehicle:
    1973 ford maverick grabber
    It goes on the frame rail where the current bracket is located. It bolts into the inserts down there. FYI those have a bad reputation of failing due to the extra leverage. Usually will be pulled from the frame. Most people have to weld reinforcements on them.
     
  8. Craig Selvey

    Craig Selvey Indiana State Rep - MCCI

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2002
    Messages:
    18,218
    Likes Received:
    1,308
    Trophy Points:
    878
    Location:
    Albany, Indiana
    Vehicle:
    1972 Maverick Grabber - Color: Orange Also, 1976 Ford Maverick 4-door, 1977 Mercury Comet 2-door.
    I would avoid long tube headers just because of the drop down bracket required and the issues it creates. Get the shorties and be happy.
     
  9. smegnl

    smegnl Roger Saffle Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2010
    Messages:
    2,324
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Location:
    Wadsworth, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    1970 Grabber Clone
    is there a better one to use? Or do they all have that problem?
     
  10. smegnl

    smegnl Roger Saffle Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2010
    Messages:
    2,324
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Location:
    Wadsworth, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    1970 Grabber Clone
    to late. Got some long tubes half off at a scratch and dent.
     
    Craig Selvey likes this.
  11. Krazy Comet

    Krazy Comet Tom

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2012
    Messages:
    7,560
    Likes Received:
    2,319
    Trophy Points:
    531
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Chesapeake VA
    Vehicle:
    1972 Comet GT clone 306 . 1969 Fairlane Cobra 428CJ 1988 T-Bird awaiting 331 ..
    Not all drop brackets are created equally, some are fabricated with much heavier gauge metal than others.

    I have one on my Fairlane purchased on Amazon, it's very strong and not even noticable. Issue is it requires some modification to fit & I have no idea if it would even come close to fitting a Maverick. Factory original "short" brackets for Mustang, Maverick & Torino are all different from one another.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CMCZS6
     
  12. mojo

    mojo "Everett"- Senior Citizen Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2009
    Messages:
    5,250
    Likes Received:
    818
    Trophy Points:
    498
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Chicago
    Vehicle:
    73 Comet GT-302 4bl
    The drop bracket on my car was custom made by prev. owner; it was made from heavy gauge steel. It broke one day coming out of garage heading to Wisconsin (about 2 hr drive). I was lucky it broke coming out of garage -- was a bear backing into garage w/ the ram not supported. Long story short -- "Having that experience", don't think I'd be comfortable w/ the brackets offered commerically. I had it welded/repaired until I switched to Borgenson conversion, eliminating need for drop bracket...
    SAM_0227.JPG
     
  13. stumanchu

    stumanchu Stuart

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2016
    Messages:
    1,375
    Likes Received:
    556
    Trophy Points:
    338
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Vehicle:
    74 comet, 70 Olsen step van, 2005 Scion xB
    I have a drop down bracket on my car with those same headers. The steering arm on the steering box hits a tube of the headers too. At the point of this discovery, the only fix I had patience for was the round end of a ball peen hammer. I only drive my car about 5-10 times a year, and I check that bracket to make sure it is tight every spring. I think they work loose and tear the nuts out of the frame. I also put a long bolt all the way through the frame to help keep it in place. Lots of pics on the net of those brackets tearing loose. Keep it tight for sure.
     
  14. Hotrock

    Hotrock Rick, an MCCI Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,466
    Likes Received:
    713
    Trophy Points:
    313
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Munroe Falls, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    1972 Mercury Comet, 1997 Mustang Cobra, 2019 Ford Edge ST
    I used the following Hooker DD bracket from Summit Racing with my 6901 headers. The best thing to do is bolt on the bracket then spot weld it to the subframe after you have test fitted everything and the headers are in place. You may find header interference with the bracket. That can be worked through.

    I eventually went to manual steering to reduce my drag strip ET.

    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hok-10961hkr/overview/
     
    stumanchu likes this.
  15. Krazy Comet

    Krazy Comet Tom

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2012
    Messages:
    7,560
    Likes Received:
    2,319
    Trophy Points:
    531
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Chesapeake VA
    Vehicle:
    1972 Comet GT clone 306 . 1969 Fairlane Cobra 428CJ 1988 T-Bird awaiting 331 ..
    If upper bolt through the frame rail is not installed, a drop bracket is a problem waiting to happen. Increases strength and rigidity probably 5x. Inserts in bottom of frame rail are nothing more than large pop rivets.
     
    stumanchu and Tannersg1 like this.

Share This Page