3 Speed w/ OD

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  1. baddad457

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    I'd jump on it, the SROD bellhousing alone is worth $150. It's also what was used for the Tremec transmissions.
     
  2. grbmaverickmo

    grbmaverickmo That Maverick Guy

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    I had a SROD in one of my driver mavericks out of a truck and used parts out of a mustang SROD to fix it. The 2 things I noticed different were input length on a car was longer for cable style clutch and shifter location is on the end of the tail on a car and closer to the frt on a truck. I liked it alot the car had 3.40 gears in the rear and it made it lot nicer on the highway. I did race it a few times and it held just got to know not to beat the life out of it(No flat shifting). My car only ran low 14`s at 100mph on radials. I would use one agian if I find one cheap
     
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    It now occurs to me that I have been calling the trans I have behind my 4 cylinder in the Maverick an SROD when that is not what it is. I wonder what the heck it is then. It has the all internal shift rail like a T5, but it looks absolutely nothing like a T5. Manual 3 speed + 4th OD. What 4 speeds did they put in the '79-'82(?) Mustangs? You have to push down on the shifter to put it in reverse.
     
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    JHodges has one like I think you're talking about, Jamie. The shift rail is on the side of the transmission instead of the top like a T-5. No external linkage like the RUG series. He told me that it was a 4 speed overdrive they pulled out of a pickup. I started to buy it from him but figured it was geared wrong for a car....
     
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    It is probably an RUG B or RUG C.
    Commonly referred to as the Top=Loader Imposters.
     
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    here's some more pictures of the trannies i have. the red one is actually a "4 speed", meaning 4th gear is 1:1 and was used in some mustangs from 79-80. This transmission is also known as the "T4" and shares some simularities with the common T5 nowadays.

    while the other cast aluminum one is obviously the SROD transmission. there's a big difference when they're put side by side but people still often get them mixed up.

    and here's the link again to the RUG OD transmission, known as the "Toploader Imposter" with it's external shift rails.
    http://mmb.maverick.to/attachment.php?attachmentid=30347&d=1226863825
     
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    You're looking and refering to the OD ratio wrong here. A .85 ratio OD is a 15 percent reduction in the output revolutions over the input. So if your motor's turning 2500 rpms in 3rd (direct 1:1) it'll turn 2125 in OD. The ratio in the 3+1 Toploader was .70 though, if I'm not mistaken.
     
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    May be the SROD was the one with the .70 4th ?
     
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    mleega1 MAVERICK MARK

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    Hey Jamie, that is a german built 4 speed. They used them in the 4 cyl and early 2.8 V6 applications. If Im not mistaken they used them in the Mustang II as well. :)
     
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    Also the pics of the Top Loader imposter are not correct as the SROD trans has the speedo cable outlet on the drivers side, unless someone swapped out the tail shaft. Does Hurst make a shifter for the SROD?
     
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    seen it both ways. btw, you know that the SROD and the 'Toploader Imposter' are two different transmissions... right? just checking cause the way u typed it, it made it sound like they was the same tranny.

    and to my knowledge, i dont think you can get any aftermarket shifter for the SROD trans.
     
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    I think Hurst does make shifters for the SROD.
     
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    The SROD and the iron case 3+1 OD Toploader are two different units. The SROD stands for "Single Rail Over Drive", this is an aluminum case, aluminum tailhousing transmission with an internal "single rail" shifter mechanism. The 3+1 iron Toploader had an external shifter mechanism similar to the regular 4 speed Toploaders. Hurst did have a shifter and install kit for this one(for the pickup truck application at least). Not sure about stuff for the SROD.
     

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