70 maverick problem

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    So I’m haveing a whole range of problems .

    I’m swaping a sbf , and 4 speed toploader in a 1970 Maverick that had a 200 straight six with a c4.

    I have a hooker 6901 long tube headers

    I’ve posted in the past.
    But here’s my dilemma
    The stamped v8 trans crossmember
    Is so close to get it inbut even with a bottle jack it won’t go in.

    Then I try with the original 1970
    6cly crossmember
    But it will collide with the long tubes

    Some have mentioned that I should splice an cut.
    But that is a bit beyond my skill set.

    2nd issue is I have the 71-72 v8 throttle cable
    But my 70 doesn’t have the hole for the bolt

    3rd is the bucket seats
    An floor boards I have Ldo tracks
    And the other type

    Still having an issues trying to get them to
    Line up.

    So far the progress on the Mav
    I have acquired a rear defroster
    The mesh package tray
    Door panels with wood grain & custom made emblems

    The wiring that was done today
    Was the mini starter
    One wire alt
    And the electric fans

    I’m just bit lost & I’m thinking of sending it in to a shop to get it finished there
     
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    A V-8 trans crossmember will not "bolt in" to a 1970. You will need to drill a hole.

    A 1970 never had a V-8 and had a totally different throttle cable set-up for the 6 cyl. You will need to drill holes in the firewall for the bolt.

    A 1970 never had bucket seats, and the floorboards are not designed for bucket seats. I think Joe (Maverick Comet Restoration page on Facebook) makes a piece in order to ut buckets in a 1970.
     
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    Thank you
    I’ll try it again, I had the bottle jack & floor jack on the trans , the bottle jack was lifting the car.
    I’ll drill it out ,

    I’ll send him a message, I’ll ask my lady to reach out.

    As for the throttle cable it should hook up to the 1970 pedal as well?

    Thank you for the reply
     
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    Depends on what cable you have. More than likely you will need to change the pedal.
     
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    He has this cable ------
    I believe the 1970 very late cars had this connection. As well as all V8 cars, 71-72
    Earlier 1970 cars had a different connection - yes?

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    For my throttle cable I ran a Lokar universal part, bolts to the manifold and connects right to the '70 pedal. When I ran a Toploader I had to use a BFH on the tunnel in spots to get it to fit, mostly around the Lakewood bell I ran. Also had to cut the side of the tunnel to clear the shifter. Ran the 6 cylinder crossmember for a lot of years but that meant one exhaust pipe hung low. Just had to oblong the mounting holes and grind down the ears some on the V8 mount to fit.
     
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    Little update on the car
    I have the trans mount off
    Also trying to pull the mini starter out
    Since I just found out it was for
    A c4

    Now looking for a 164 tooth mini starter
    Unless a stock starter will fit between th headers

    What’s freaking me out is
    I put a breaker bar on the sbf to turn it over
    An it’s frozen
     
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    Can you give a little more info on the 70 bucket conversation found on FB? Has anyone on here used them?
     
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    Excepting for some '60s manual transmission applications, AFAIK there are no differences in operation of Ford small block starters.

    I have the exact same PMGR(mini) starter on my Comet with 157T flexplate C4 as I do on '96 F-150 5.0. E4OD.
     
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    In the 60's the manual trans starters had a shorter nose piece than those for automatics. The first V8 in my Maverick was a '66 289 out of a Mustang. When I went to the parts house for a starter the guy behind the counter just grabbed a starter off the shelf without looking it up. I took it home, installed it, and when I tried to start the engine it promptly chewed up about 1/3 of the teeth on the ring gear. I was pissed. Took it back, this time there was a girl behind the counter. She looked it up and gave me the right starter. Obviously I had to replace the ring gear, the parts house didn't offer me any relief for that even though it was their screw up that caused the problem.
    Over the years I've moved that shorter nose piece to a couple different starters to work with the Mustang flywheel. Sometime around 1970 they changed the location of the ring gear on the manual trans flywheel so that it uses the same starter as an auto trans.
     
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    I ordered a set just waiting on paying shipping .
    As for the welding i can take pics
    Once I tow the Mav to the welders

    I’m gonna have them weld up the drilled holes, that I messed up on
     
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    That is good info

    I’m having a heck of a hard time pulling the starter out , since the long tubes are in the way an a nice pic of the blocks casting numbers haha

    With the stubby 9/16th I cant get it in to get to the upper bolt
    I’m really nervous , I hope the engine is not stove up from sitting

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    Oh an it’s a 164 tooth flywheel
    Ram 11 inch diaphragm clutch an ram flywheel with ARP bolts that were ford specific for 302
    I’m still pulling my hair out since the block won’t spin over
     

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