Auto Krafters z bar issues

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  1. Ford Freak

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    Hi guys my Current engine swap , was from a 200 inline 6/ c4 combo.

    I dropped in a stroker built by Ben alameda, an a 4 speed toploader rebuilt with the road race kit, by David kee.
    I’m running an 11 inch diaphragm race clutch
    The z bar is from Auto Krafters
    Since the og one was toast
    My problem is the roller bushings that I bought from Auto Krafters
    Are very very flimsy
    Two piece with a “A looking clamp”
    I have the threaded boss on the side of the engine for a roller plastic bushing an one on the side of frame

    So far I’m pulling my hair out , trying to get it right.
    On a different thread , I got a solution for my z bar rod.
    But this is the other issue.
     
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    can you post a picture of what you have, then we might be able to figure out something for you.......
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    Yes I’ll get them uploaded tomorrow .
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    Here are some photos , sorry for the delay, the holidays set me back.
    But I did get my manual pedals installed . Thank you again to the forums it really helped on that part .


    The very last one is a pic I pulled off here on the forums.
    Of the other side of the mount, mine is still mounted on the car, I’m going to have to remove , the master cylinder ; to access it .
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    The original factory engine side mount is that "ball end" type as seen in your last picture, it uses those 2 piece bushings that wrap around the ball stud, it is secured by that "A" wire clip into 2 holes, which are located top and bottom on the Z bar. I am not sure if the Auto Krafters Z-bar has these 2 holes, as the stud that comes with it looks like ones used for early Mustangs. So long as that Auto Krafters engine side pivot stud/bushing fits nicely into the end of the Z bar, everything should be fine. Like the original, the Z bar can be separated into 2 halves, by removing the bolt to help ease installation. Be sure to lube those bushings with chassis grease, good luck!
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    Thank you, I’ll have to do some searching for the ball type then.
    Unless they make repops
     
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    So this is my 2nd issue On the frame side
    The roller is a bit small
    Not sure where to look now
     

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    In the 2nd picture, there is the correct larger diameter nylon bushing for our Z-bar, however that frame side bracket is for early Mustangs, which has a smaller diameter stud..........
    I'll see if I can dig out my OEM frame side bracket and take some pictures or if another member can do the same..........
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    I’ll have to see if someone on here is willing to sell one .
    I’m so close to getting this old Mav on the road :)
     
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    Here is a break down on the original Ford part numbers for those bushings:
    C5AZ-7543-D Ball Stud bushing halves, 2 required
    C1AA-7543-A Frame side bracket bushing
    D0ZZ-7K530-A Rubber seal, frame side bracket
    351517S Felt Washer, ball stud

    I am sure you will find the correct frame side bracket on this forum, post an ad in the wanted section.......
    David

    Here is picture of frame side bracket and Z-bar, I installed grease fittings so it could be lubed, I believe the bracket is specific to our Mav/Comet only......... P1020002.JPG
     
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    Have you located the frame side bracket?
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    If you have access to a lathe or a machine shop it is quite easy to make a stud for the frame side mount and then you could use the larger bushing that you have. If you look it is just a stud cut down a bit for the ball and then A groove for the C clip.
     

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