couple of strange things....

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  1. 71gold

    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    well that was a bust...
    everything he said goes against the instructions. I mentioned that and he said "don't worry about it, it'll be OK"...:slap:
    I guess tomorrow I'll be rewiring my MSD 60143 control box and my MSD Atomic EFI. he wants them on the same relay...instructions say...do not piggyback the 12v connections...:huh:

    ...to be continued...
     
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    Frustrating for sure!:slap:
     
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    got the new wiring harness made up today, maybe get it hooked up tomorrow.
     

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    Good luck!
     
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    well another bust...
    same results....going to plan :scratchchin: F or G.
    going to start tracing wires from the switch forward...:yup:
     
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    You need to verify whether there is/isn't power to ign lead with switch on/off & ign unit disconnected. If there is no power in off position but is there with ign connected, there is internal leakage in the electronics. I'm assuming the ign has a control wire that is fed from switch. If ign also has separate positive & negative leads connected to battery, those should remain connected.
     
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    one thing that baffles me...is why is it still running in the key off position. I can turn the key on there is power, I can turn it off and no power. just when I start the car and turn it off does the power stay on...:bouncy:
     
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    Disconnect wire to ign with engine running(use cliplead jumper). If it cuts off there's a wiring issue some place.
     
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    So with the key turned off and car still running you must still have power going to the MSD and Atomic control box and they are now wired to a relay on the power side, so what happens when you take the relay out of the socket when car is running ? I would think if that is the source of power then it would have to die, if not then you do have a ghost and need to get the car an Exorcism

    Just really funny that this all happened just after changing a fuel line, probably something simple just hard to find
     
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    You have a bunch of relays you have added to that car. I would bet one is getting power in a way it shouldn't.

    I got a great deal on an Explorer that I'm pretty sure the previous owners were convinced was haunted. Someone replaced the cruise control pads in the steering wheel and they were very sloppy in how they ran the wiring. The horn contact nicked the power wire that was right next to it and that fed cruise control power to the horn relay. The horn stayed on whenever the power was turned on, and pulling the fuse to the horn didn't even slow it down. I rerouted the cruise wiring and put electrical tape on the nick, bought new horns to replace the burnt-up ones, and enjoyed the car. :thumbs2:

    You probably bumped something that gets constant power the wrong way when you were doing the fuel line.
     
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    when I kill power with the kill switch it dies. turn it back on that connector is off. if I unplug the connector with it running it dies but wire is still hot. this is a...switched on source. it will go on and off with the key without the engine running.
     
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    Which wire? one from switch or one to ign?
     
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    Try unhooking you alternator and see if that makes any difference . Does you MSD box or your Atomic efi box have a constant power AND a switched power.

    Probably a stupid question but can you unhook your fuel gauge since it is one of the things that was messed with when changing hose, that and power to fuel pump. Maybe some weird thing going on with you gauge wiring and a stuck relay or ?
     
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    the one to ign. on the fuse box.
     
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    atomic has constant power and a switched power. MSD box just switched on.

    unhooked the alt wire and the feed wire. unhooked e-waterpump relay and fan relay. pulled the fuse from e-fuel pump kills engine but wire to switched on still hot to everything. flip kill switch with key off and everything is dead, flip it on and still dead.
    all relays click on/off with key just not after it's started.
     

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