Flat black

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  1. ratio411

    ratio411 Member

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    I was just pointing out that it stands to reason that whatever shade of black they used for one Ford in one model year, the other Fords of that year had the same shade used on the same parts.
    Example, if a 72 Stang tail panel was a shade of black... then Mavericks and Torinos (and others) used the same shade of black on their tail panels that year.
    Also, I know, on Stangs anyway, all the blackouts, spoilers, and engine bays were the same shade of black between the parts.
    And, if you ordered your Stang in a non-standard color, you got the same shade of black on your sport mirrors.
    The sport mirrors were painted totally separately, then delivered to the assembly line, so a special order paint could not be put on the mirrors.
    The mirror line was only set up to paint standard colors. FWIW...
     
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    Dave, you misunderstood my question. I was wanting to know if the bottom sides of 73-74 Grabbers were gloss or semi flat, and did the tail panel match the sides, or was it different? I'm toying with some paint ideas for my car, the reason I want to know....
     
  3. Dave B

    Dave B I like Mavericks!

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    What you need to do is buy an NOS black tail light housing, and match it to that.
     
  4. Mavman72

    Mavman72 Gone backwards but lookin' forward

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    Fords semi-gloss black paint was generally 60 percent gloss.Engine compartments/spoilers/tail panels/grills/mirrors all got the same semi-gloss black paint regardless of what or where it was on the car. If it was semi-gloss it was 60 percent gloss.Your painter can mix it up how you want... tell him you want 60 percent gloss.He will add a dulling agent to the gloss black to achieve the desired appearance.Dont use a flat paint it will stain/discolor/show wax etc...as stated allready...Good luck.
     
  5. rayzorsharp

    rayzorsharp I "AM" a Maverick!

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    But when do you know when it's 60% and not 40%. Does anyone out there have a 100% original panel that isn't faded to match it to?
    The Dupont link I gave has a semi-gloss paint ready to spray. I doubt you can find anyone that can tell you what % gloss it is. If they can, I'd like them to explain the process to me. You don't have to experiment with different amounts of flattening agent to get it how you want and it doesn't dull out over time like a lacquer based paint...which I've tried before. Most of these flattened out paints just don't hold up to the ultraviolet sun rays for very long. My louvers have been in the sun quite often over the last 4 years and the finish looks as good as it did the day I sprayed it. You don't have to try it if you don't want. You asked for my thoughts so here they are. Good luck to you whatever you try. (y)
     
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    Excellent point Ray(y)I allways just went with a full gloss black and added dulling agent untill it "looked" like 60 percent of its original gloss to me.Its all subjective...As for durability I agree that its longevity is hit or miss depending on exposure/weather etc...If you need a good example of the original semi-gloss appearance look at a spare tires rim from one of your mavs.Thats the original appearance of the semi-gloss black if its a plain steel wheel.Spares in the trunk tend to hold up better than other components since they dont get the weather/exposure the rest of the car gets,and the paint tends to be very good on the rim.:tiphat:
     
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    i Looked at Prices ....Original Grabber on Dan Hines site.....his panel nis original and seems very flat black to me.
     
  8. Dave B

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    Wouldn't this just be the easiest way? I've seen NOS black ones on Eaby from time to time, at you would think Ford would make them to match.
     
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    It certainly would be Dave.But if you dont have access to one the spare tire rim is a good source.
     
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    i actually do have an NOS black taillight ....it seems semi gloss, we painted the car today...i opted for Flat flat black! i really like that dull look, to me it seems More muscle carish.....thanks for everybody chiming in!!
     
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    My 70s tail panel and hood came with Ultra Flat Black, seems to be the only year it was used. Very rough texture. Under the hood was Flat Black.
     
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    The textured flat black paint used to be called "organosol" was used on mopars...AAR Cudas used it on the fiberglass 6 Pack hoods.Looked like flat black non skid... I dont recall if its still available or manufactured under a different name/brand.You can buy texturing material that you add to your paint media.Its used mostly for repainting textured plastic panels/bumpers on newer cars the have such on them.
     
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    i love the Flat look! thats kinda wut i was aiming for...im very very happy with mine
     
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    Ultimately... thats all that matters.
     
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    Being from a mixed Mopar/Maverick garage, this is what my orange drag car has for its tail panel and hood blackout area! I think it came out nice.
     

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