Increasing car values & the $20k Maverick in Car Craft Mag

Guys; I was at the Woodward Dream Cruise this weekend, and I got a LOT of response, and some very interesting comments about my Maverick. Most were surprised and happy to see one restored and cared for. Sean and I had our cars together at one point, and quite a few people came by to see them. I think that, like Sean said, people can identify with our cars. Most did not have Boss mustangs, and Cougar Eliminators, but most folks did have Mavericks and Comets, or knows of folks who did. I think our cars are in for a big rise in value, and interest in the near future. Hold onto them, and care for them, and I think we will be rewarded. But then again, how many of us are going to sell??? Hopefully, not many. Take care,

 

""They can say whatever they want but there's no comparison. The Maverick is so similar to the Mustang, and came with a V-8. Pintos are little econno-boxes with 4-cylinders and they're ugly. They're also way too small. It's like riding around in a sardine can. Pinto's make fine race cars, but "Musclecars" they ain't...""

You completely miss the point. I wasn't comparing cars from a performance standpoint, or even a capability or category standpoint. What I am talking about is respect. You get upset when you don't get it, yet you aren't willing to give it.

People who modify Pintos (which can be really cool with turbos or V-8 swaps) love their cars, and probably don't like hearing people like you trash talk them. So you get upset when people don't give your Maverick the proper respect?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, IMO.

 

Stephan; I agree, and surely hope that that will happen. The MCCI and the members of this board are the biggest body of advocates, and if anything happens with this car, it will be through us. Your contribution to the hobby in running this board is big, big stuff, and we all appreciate your efforts.

 

I have always liked the Maverick. I always wanted a grabber. I've had 3 Mavericks and when I got the chance to buy the Grabber I have I jumped at it. Sold my all original '63 VW rag top and a bunch of spare parts to get it. I'm glad I did as at every show or cruz night I go to people think it's a cool car. Ya just don't see many Mavericks around and that is just one of the cool things about them. They are not "Belly Button Cars" like Mustangs and Comaros, Novas and such. Our cars are stand outs at shows because they are different.Now if I could only convince my family of that.

As far as Ford not making it a respected muscle car, well it's not their fault. The car was a replacement for the Falcon. Ford needed an economy car a bread and butter machine and that is what it was. Gapp & Rouch raced one, Don Nicolson did as well. But it was never intended to compete with the Mustang. I'm kinda glad that a lot of people over look the Mavericks. If they didn't then I could not have afforded the Grabber I have.

Based on most prices I see now, I made a good deal, but it will never catch up with Mustangs, Cougars and even the old Falcons and ya know I don't care. I have my '70's era Muscle STYLE car.

 

I get upset because my Maverick is as good as any Camaro or Mustang, yet it is not respected as such. No, I don't have any respect for Pintos, as they are not even in the same class. They are junk and there is no comparison. They weigh next to nothing, and therefore can be made into very fast race cars, but they're still Pintos, and they're still ugly. As for the "goose & the gander", people need to compare apples to apples.

I also grow tired of how when we start talking about our Mavericks like this here, someone always has to mention Pintos. This is a MAVERICK website and I couldn't care less about Pintos...if I wanted to discuss & read about Pintos, I'd go to a Pinto website. This thread was never about Pintos and we should at least attempt to stick to the topic..

 

The topic is respect, and you still aren't getting the point. It has nothing to do with Pintos, it's about offering the same respect to other enthusiasts that you are demanding for yourself. You don't appear willing to do that, or even understand why you should.

And even though I love my Maverick, I don't think we are talking apples to apples when you are comparing it to cars that came with an aluminum head hemi 429, 428 cobra jets, Boss 302s, Boss 351s, aluminum COPO 427s, Z-28s with cross ram intakes, etc.

The biggest engine the Mav came with was a weak 2v windsor, and it took them two years to even do that. The base model was a 170 six with a three on the tree, and you are surprised the Maverick doesn't get mentioned in the same breath with the Mustang or Camaro? Man, talk about a persecution complex.

 

I think there's more of an reason for the, so called, lack of respect than you realize, and there's little anyone is going to do about it. There is a large body of people who have very parochial attitudes about classics and collectibles and nothing anyone will say or do is going to change that....ever! This narrow minded thought process is eveident in places like the Antique Automobile Club of America. There was a recent dispute, a large one I may add, whether hot rods should be a class at AACA meets at all. The dispute got to the point that there was a lot of hot rod bashing from the purists that feel that old cars should be restored to original and modifying them ruined them completely.


The point I'm trying to make is that any degree of peer respect will come in time, and some will never accept them to the point of Mustangs and '57 Chevys. Maybe Mavericks will never get the overall recognition we think they deserve. That's ok. There's a LOT of cars in the same boat as our's. You can't blame Ford for that, because what was stated is the truth, like it or not. Mavs were an econobox to fight the growing import threat, and a damn successful one. Our cars get plenty of recognition, more as of late. Our ranks are growing and that says a lot. Is it really that necessary to be put up on a pedestal like many have put, for example, Mustangs? Are Mavs/Comets going to be that much more degraded if they are not? Personally, I don't want my cars up on a pedestal. I like being the underdog. I like that we are lesser and different. Where could you go to an event like the Roundup and see nearly 50 same model cars, but EVERY one of them different? There were absolutely none exactly the same, and I thought that awesome. Try doing that at a Mustang meet. Good luck!

Someone thought it ok to spend $20,000 on a Grabber. Good for him and I wish the buyer all the best luck with the Mav. I hope he becomes a MCCI member also. If that isn't recognition and respect, than what do you call it??

 

Your point seems to be that my car is deserving of respect only if I respect every other make & model in existence, whether it be Pintos or whatever. Well I don't respect all makes & models of cars and it is unrealistic for anyone to expect me to. I don't have to like the fact that my car lacks respect, and I don't like it. You wanna call me a hypocrite for wanting my car to be respected while I'm not willing to respect every other piece of junk out there? Fine; that's your perrogative and you're entitled to your opinion, as I am mine.

You don't seem to be getting my point:

The MAIN point is that I don't like the fact that just because Ford neglected to give the Maverick the same treatment as Mustangs (and GM to Camaros), treatment that I can give the car myself after the fact, people do not respect it. So my car didn't come with a BOSS or a big-block...it's still a very good car and has a very nice body-style. I am fully aware that the lack of respect is a fact of life that I am going to have to live with. I just figure that this is the place to express my views on the subject concerning these particular cars (Mavericks/Comets).

I have an '83 Pontiac Trans Am and a '94 Ford Escort...should I be talking about how great those cars are on this Maverick forum?? I don't think so. There are other websites for those cars...

 

I do think that at a car show ... A Maverick will get more respect than a Mustang II ... not sure if that is saying much or not .... A Mustang II is just a glorified Pinto!

 

At least the Mustang-II is a good-looking car. What the hell do people see in Pintos anyway (other than their light weight)???! I suppose I should respect AMC Pacers & Gremlins too. How about Yugos? Maybe I should show those Focus or KIA owners some respect.
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Not in this lifetime...

 

Ok, now you have gone too far. The Mistake II is a good looking car? That car almost killed off the Mustang! So far the only good thing about the MII is the front suspension.

It works great on street rods

 

Several of us own a Focus......great cars!!

 

I was of course referring to the Cobra-II. Sorry if I offended anyone....

 

I just thought of something.Ya know at my age it's tuff some times.Well anyway, Way back in the 70's the lowly Gremlin you lump into the no resect list was a terror on the road race tracks of the good old USA. They dominated the BF Goodrich radial series races and took the championship a few years in a row with only a 6 cylinder engine. AMC guys still don't like them.

What I'm saying here is that respect for a car comes from and for many reasons. Forget the word respect, how about just acknowlege that not all cars are universaly liked or accepted..........Frankly, Pintos make good racecars too. I know of a guy that runs 12's in the quarter with a 4 banger and on the roundy round tracks they are tuff to beat in mini stock.

Don't look for respect of the entire Maverick production. Earn the acceptance by others for your car and we as a group will gain acceptance because we are promoting the breed and bringing it to the attention of those that overlooked it in the past.