MUSCLE CARS or just CLASSIC?

muscle car

Hell'o nice friends at this Maverick and Comet site ,
i would like to say i consider my 71 maverick to be in the muscle car category because of it being set up gasser style , it has a 350 horse chevy 350 with a 350 turbo. Fully tubbed narrowed dana 60 rear with coil overs , detroilt locker with 5-38 gears , a hard bar and ajustable ladder bars with full 10 point cage and front streight axel . Its an old drag race car that was a wheel stander when it had the big block in it . But i think it could also be a classic since you dont see alot of 71 grabbers
Thank you for leting me have my say
yumakidd

 

Putting a Chevy 350 in a Maverick still doesn't make it a "muscle car". In fact, it's blasphemous...

 

I'd say it's more Frankenstein than true blasphemy. Now if he had an olds differential and a pontiac front clip with his ford body and chevy motor, I think I'd just .


me =

 

I had my Grabber at a Good Guys show earlier this year. One of the spectators walking by called it a muscle car. I said it really wasn't, but only looked like one. He got mad and insisted Maverick Grabbers were muscle cars. I wasn't going to argue with him, but that's the perception of a lot of people now-a-days.

Roz

 

I had someone say that about my car when I told them it was a '73 V8. It's almost as if, because it's from the muscle car time period, they think it'd be the same thing. I won't bother to argue, people can think what they like, but many think that most cars from that era are simply muscle cars because they're FROM that era.

 

well said and i agree 100%.. even tho i own a ........4 door

 

I like 4-doors. I had a 4-door in the '80's and early '90's.

The Mercury 4-doors are especially classy. 4-doors are definitely classics!

Roz

 

We need another thing to vote on. Mav's are not classic or muscle. They are collectables. Classics are pre-WW2. Muscle cars were hipos from the factory. With a max HP of only 210 and only a 3 speed option, they are just not what muscle cars are made of. They can be made muscular, but didn't come that way from Ford.

 

I disagree. I don't care what the CCCA says, it's their opinion. The ACCA says 25 years or older is a Classic, so it boils down to who you're gonna agree with.

The Maverick is a classic American car. Something is collectible only if people want to collect it, it has nothing to do with its age.

You are right about musclecars though. Mavericks were never factory musclecars, but they can easily be made into musclecars or race cars...

 

They're classics in my book -- people comment regularly on my "cool classic car."

As for muscle -- I judge on a car by car basis. MANY Mustangs/Challengers/Camaros are not "muscle" cars. Even some of the legendary monster muscle cars have identical counterparts that aren't muscle cars.

But if you took your V6 Challenger and dropped a 440 in it -- it's NOW a muscle car. If you pull the 302 out of your Comet and drop in a 351, it's NOW a muscle car. Hell, even if you just soupe up the 302, I'll count it.

Muscle comes from how it throws done when it comes to shooting down the road.

If it's American, rear-wheel-drive, and puts down power, then it's muscle.

 

That TV show "My Classic Car" (with Dennis Gage) often features cars made after 1948...

 

So then a Pinto is a musle car

 

Classics are anything over 30 years old right, so the '78 aren't quite yet, but all other are... Antiques are at 35 or 40 I think someone correct me if i am worng, i think the good guys require 35 years old to be included don't they??

 

Ok gonna throw out another consideration , is a duece coupe, or a 40 ford or 55 Ford Pickup a muscle car?? heck those certainly weren't factory Muscle cars, heck those deuces weren't pushing more than 40 50 HP from the factory right?
I think a true muscle car would be the cars of the 60's and early seventies that were billed as muscle from the factory, I'd make the case that a '64 mustang was not even a muscle car. It would not be until the HP wars started that true factory muscle came out of the factories , Boss's , cobra jets Judges, Z-28's,

 

There is an association that judges and determines what a classic car is. Nothing made after 1948 qualifies. The term "Classic" is loosly given to old cars.

Here is the official deffinition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Car_Club_of_America#Definition_of_a_Classic_car

In the words of the CCCA:
A CCCA Classic is a "fine" or "distinctive" automobile, either American or foreign built, produced between 1925 and 1948. Generally, a Classic was high-priced when new and was built in limited quantities. Other factors, including engine displacement, custom coachwork and luxury accessories, such as power brakes, power clutch, and "one-shot" or automatic lubrication systems, help determine whether a car is considered to be a Classic. The CCCA is considered to have invented the term classic car, which was coined to describe the vehicles covered by the Club's interest. While the term is nowadays used to describe any interesting old vehicle, many consider it only properly used to describe vehicles considered eligible for the CCCA. This may be considered analogously to the correct usage of 'Classical music' to mean only from a specific historical period, even though many people use the term to mean any orchestral work.
In order to avoid ambiguity, classic cars that are eligible for the CCCA are generally called 'CCCA Full Classics', 'CCCA Classics', 'Full Classics', or just capitalized as 'Classics'.
The CCCA has an admittedly narrow focus, being interested only in the high-priced cars available in a limited time period. Racing cars and serious sports cars are not covered by the CCCA, either.

Now on to muscle car status:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car
A muscle car is a high-performance automobile. The term principally refers to American, Australian and South African models and generally describes a 2-door rear wheel drive mid-size car with a large, powerful V8 engine and special trim, intended for maximum torque on the street or in drag racing competition. It is distinguished from sports cars, which were customarily and coincidentally considered smaller, two-seat cars, or GTs, two-seat or 2+2 cars intended for high-speed touring and possibly road racing. High-performance full-size or compact cars are arguably excluded from this category, as are the breed of compact sports coupes inspired by the Ford Mustang. Other factors used in defining classic muscle cars are their age and country of origin. A classic muscle car is usually made in the US or Australia between 1964 and 1975. Notably, the term "muscle car" did not enter common usage until after production of the cars had essentially ended. During their heyday, print media usually referred to this class of vehicle as "supercars".

There never was a factory Maverick muscle car. Even if you add a biger engine it wont change what the factory did or didn't do.

Get over it guys... We don't have a classic or a muscle car.... What we have are great looking collectable cars of interest.