Proven Aluminum Radiators, which to buy?

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  1. dyent

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    Don't just be a tease about it.. we want part numbers and pictures are always worth a thousand words!
     
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    Sorry I didn't make myself clear. I was commenting on the drain plug interfering with the Champion install. I have Griffin 19 x 26 x 3 cross-flow Griffin radiator in my Falcon. I had to cut about an inch off both sides of the support to fit the radiator. BTW the Maverick support is made the same as a Falcon support where the mounting bolts go in the support. I don't have the part number handy but I do remember it wasn't cheap.

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    That's great info to have and solidifies my idea about doing the same thing to mine as well, Jeff. I will probably just stick to the 2 core setup though since the crossflow design is already markedly better than the typical downflow styles being discussed here.
     
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    Here you go:

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    Dude.. you just wrote a novel with all those pic's! Have been waiting for the newest progress pic's on your build and you delivered them in spades.

    Wait, what were we even talking about?.. oh yeah, radiators. That Griffin looks like it fits like a glove.

    PS. I think the chromed hood latch is a bit too much over the top here and takes away from some of that bling located behind the rad support. Should just paint that black so it blends in more. LOL Kidding.. looks awesome.

    PSPS. Yer pops must be one hell of a guy to deserve something like this! Color me green. Two thumbs WAAAYYYY UP.

    PSPSPS. I keep coming back to add more here. lol If you tell me those taillights are sequential?.. I'll have to spit coffee and fall off my chair.
     
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    They are sequential.
     
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    lol.. glad I finished my coffee and my office carpet is pretty plush. Didn't even hurt and no one else heard me fall. Nice try though. (y)

    I won't take away from this thread but I have some questions now and will be PM'ing you shortly to get them answered.
     
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    I just recently got a Champion 2-row radiator. I don't know if they have made changes to it, but rather than a petcock, it just has a wingnut style plug with a rubber gasket. There were no clearance issues whatsoever, however I noticed that even when using the lowest mounting holes, this radiator sits a half-inch lower than the stock radiator, which puts the lower hose fitting extremely close to the crossmember, so I drilled 4 new mounting holes to raise it up a half-inch.
    I also had to drill 4 holes (slots) for the stock fan shroud.

    Although the drain plug clears, I've never liked how even the stock drain runs all over the crossmember, so I had an additional drain (1/4" NPT bung) installed on the bottom corner so it will drain straight into the pan. I got the idea from "55crown vic" on this forum.

    I don't know why Champion puts the holes so that it sits so low on a Maverick. I wish they would change this, or perhaps not drill any holes at all and let the user drill the holes where they need to go. You can see the new holes I drilled are round and the existing ones are slotted.

    The lower hose fitting is within 1/8th inch of the original location, but I noticed that it is straight, and the stock fitting is angled. I don't anticipate this being an issue.


    This radiator was only $176 including shipping, plus I have another $25 in it for the installation of the bung. The griffin radiators are around $650. I figured for that price, I could drill a few holes.
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    Larry:
    could you post pic of top side of rad/shroud, would like to see fitment of your 2 row versus my 3 row, also what is the tank thickness on yours? 3" wide? I had to grind a little of my crossmember for bottom tank end to clear. Mine still came with brass petcock, never even thought about having petcock moved like yours, had I known, would have had that mod done on mine too. I think more so a cost factor that bungs are located where they are, just have everything on same side, offers alittle more protection from any foreign object getting thrown up too by the crossmember.
    The side mounting bracket for my shroud is not quite wide enough, so I may have to add a strip to extend one side in order for my OEM shroud to attach. I contacted Champion regarding making side mounting bracket a little wider, at least on their 3 row CC339 units, figured their EC339 2 row would be the same?
    David

    a couple of pics, see where I had to add extension on RH side so could mount onto rad support, I don't know if this is because of that cut out on A/C cars, at least on mine, my 74 w/o A/C, did not have that cut out on the support.
    my OEM shroud does not even catch any of holes, as the bracket too narrow, would beable to mount on one side, but have to extend the bracket on the other side........
     

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    I put a flexlite fan and 2in spacer the fan shroud is for a 67-70 mustang it was 65.00 off eBay new i cut on the side in middle took out about 1/2" then put thin strip of metal and rivited it .the reason for this is the top tank sticks out over .this shroud fits the stock radiator perfect though.
     

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    same problem I have with my OEM shroud, gap at the top of 1", between it and the core.......
     
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    Yes, the mounting brackets could be a little wider. Mine were just barely wide enough with no room to spare, and the bolts for the shroud are located on the innermost part of the shroud slots on both sides. The pre-existing shroud holes were the correct size but none were in the correct location. I had the bung installed locally. I don't know if Champion offers that mod or not. The tank thickness is 2-inches, with the overall distance from the mounting bracket to the back of the tank being 2-3/16". I wonder if you'd still have tank clearance issues if the radiator sat a half-inch higher (like my stock one). I also noticed that using the existing mounting holes (that made the radiator sit a half-inch lower than stock), the stock fan shroud would have been mounted too high causing no room for the hose that attaches to the pressure relief nozzle on the filler neck.
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    Wow, that's the first time I've seen that car sitting like it should. 'Looks great.
     

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