RC-107

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  1. groberts101

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    Seems a pretty rich opinion coming from someone with as many random and near useless "one liner" posts as you have buried around here. If there was a smart ass trophy on this forum?.. you'd probably have that one too, Frank. :yup:

    PS. I also consider Mike to be one of the smartest guys around here too for the very simple reason that he doesn't toss contentious attitudes and smart ass remarks towards people who genuinely care to actually take their time to help him out. Unlike some other crotchety old farts, no names here but most around here know who they are, he seems the type of guy that wants to keep learning something new every day. Have always been drawn to folks like that and why I consistently try to pay it forward whenever possible. Dignacious gratitude, whether the information is agreed upon, asked for or not, seems to be a dying mentality.
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    thread topic was about...RC-107 and you schooled him on headers...

    " whether the information is agreed upon, asked for or not, seems to be a dying mentality."
    ...baffle em with BS seems to be your mentality...:yup:
     
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    :lolup:... that's even richer yet! Stefan.. give the man another gold star for the art of taking something out of full context from the words spoken and twisting it around just to screw with people. Maybe you just needed your reading glasses to reread post #7 more closely. If not.. well, at least your post count is still rising. :1st:

    And I'm getting confused.. don't you first need to have enough actual knowledge about any particular topic to even fully recognize "BS" when you see it? :scratchchin: Do you even know what a reverse cone collector does at the exhaust valve itself?.. or specifically when and with what combination of parts should it's potential benefit be applied? Or maybe you have some recent hotrod articles or decent engine sim software to help you figure it out? :idea:

    Any time you feel the need to get schooled in front of the "engine theory and design" class?.. you feel free to drop by and visit. See how this smart-ass condescension works both ways? :whistle:
     
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    yellow75 MCCI Oregon State Rep Supporting Member

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    Okay peace brothers. I am far from one of the smartest guys here but I do like to learn and one of the things I have learned is if I dont have something good to say I dont say anything that way I can not offend anybody.

    I have spoken to Greg personally about performance issues and the subject of headers did come up in this post so input was welcome, he has a great deal of knowledge and is far advanced to the point that a lot of it is over most peoples heads but I still learn from his posts.

    Now on with the regular scheduled program
     
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    Thanks for that, Mike. I try to help others when i have the opportunity because i remember life before the internet when info and firsthand experiences were much harder to come by. Race teams and engine builders closely guarded all their hard earned and overly expensive secrets or even falsified results to steer you off into the weeds.

    I do have to come clean though.. I'm really just a pre-school daycare provider named Maria. Just read all this stuff on the internet and passed it along as my own because i needed more adult appreciation than 3 year olds could possibly give. :dizzy:

    My sincere apologies for the temporary thread derailment though. :tiphat:
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    wth?.. not really sure if I should be offended by that picture or not. Looks like a little pink sherbert colored bulldog skull wearing a dunce cap. If I squint at it really hard I suppose there could be a little resemblance. :beaten:
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    just what I thought, you wouldn't know what a...reverse cone collector...was if you saw one...LOL
     
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    Gotcha, now that is funny. Sorry Greg but I have to admire Franks twisted sense of humor.
     
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    I usually do too.. when it's directed towards someone else. ;)

    Frank, you could gain a whole "tub-o-power" if you cut the end off that thing and added another to actually make a true reverse cone! Google it and hotrod will show you some design pictures. Plus that'll probably burn up in no time and the smell will only make you hungry. On the other hand.. could start calling your car "sherbert". Good license plate for it too! :bananaman:
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    instead of Google, do you have any pics of the ones on your car?
     
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    I prefer and try to use merge style collectors rather than band-aiding poorly designed "one size fits all" off-shelf headers which typically run too large a collector. Reverse cone collectors are generally used for increasing collector depression when running larger/higher flowing primary tube sizes than is necessary for the engines actual power requirements, because power output is directly related to mass flow. Which covers about 90% of the headers sold to the general public. Or sometimes used on larger and very short primary length designs to make them act as if they are longer lengths(longer reflection waves) and smaller OD(increased velocities) without sacrificing too much flow on the top end of the power curve. Makes for a broader/less peaky power delivery.

    That is also the same exact concept used to make carburetor venturi's work to pull fuel into its bores.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli's_principle#/media/File:VenturiFlow.png

    I'm welding and pouring the floors of my little RHS heads raised exhaust ports with liquid aluminum so the headers for it will end up being designed one of two ways. Either by chopping/installing custom matched flanges and retrofitting merge style collectors.. or less chopping with matched flanges and simpler reverse cone collector utilization to more economically squeeze them into the chassis until I toss them aside to build full on custom stainless pieces to match my racier P38 heads. Custom headers cost a lot of time and resources to build so I'm not looking to do it again once I cut the firewall to move the aluminum engine back.

    But, something tells me you don't care about header design as much as writing useless one line zingers just to screw around with people and raise your post counts. Also guessing once you finally see my home made junks craftsmanship and watch it run circles around other combo's of parts costing far more dollars to build.. there probably won't be many zingers that could truthfully relate to the engine build. Then again, maybe some peoples level of pettiness knows no bounds. :whistle:
     
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    RMiller My name is Rick

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    Not trying to be a jerk but you guys realize you can block each other right? Never have to see each others posts again. Just a thought....:beerchug:
     
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    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

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    so me asking for a pic of the headers on your Comet "screws around with your head"...:huh:
    what about some pics of...

    "I'm welding and pouring the floors of my little RHS heads raised exhaust ports with liquid aluminum so the headers for it will end up being designed one of two ways. Either by chopping/installing custom matched flanges and retrofitting merge style collectors.. or less chopping with matched flanges and simpler reverse cone collector utilization to more economically squeeze them into the chassis until I toss them aside to build full on custom stainless pieces to match my racier P38 heads. Custom headers cost a lot of time and resources to build so I'm not looking to do it again once I cut the firewall to move the aluminum engine back."

    it's a lot deeper than I would go but I have interest in what others say they are doing.
    I did a copy and paste so it wouldn't look like a"one liner".
     
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    Ok Frank. IF.. you are genuinely intetested i will try to snap some pictures this weekend. Otherwise if you're just trying to seperate bull from reality in the hopes of "outing me" then I'm too damned busy at work to be fooling with all the picture editing for partially finished projects. There'll be plenty of pics to come later on.

    My apologies to you Frank.. and everyone else who has to read useless bicker, for getting too combative lately. Stupid remodeling is taking most every bit of sanity i still have left to work with. :whew:
     
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